I find Valk to be difficult to deal with | Forums

[TOCKSYK]

Can't really seem to land a blow on her. She got fast lights, decent mix ups, unpunishable sweep that confirms 35 damage, full block (though kinda useless) and a really good soft feint shield bash. I try to dodge the sweep then GB but of course that doesn't work anymore, lights can't be parried consistently, soft feint bash is such a pain to deal with especially since it can be followed up by an attack after you miss it. When I play Glad I can't win against her for the life of me
Probably my toughest match up
How do I deal with a really good Valk?

[Velentix]

Console or pc? Valk is a mix up intensive hero, who can really be difficult to fight if your opponent is good at mind games. As a glad I'd say pay close attention to your distancing, and don't try to go for gbs unless you fully predicted a chain finisher and preemptively dodged. Dodge lights will be your friend for on reaction dodges to finishers. Apart from that if you can practice dodging her bash and get fairly consistent at parrying the top light follow up, you can do some good damage. Deflects on light finishers is a great way to scare valks away from those mix ups. Basically you want to be the one dictating the pace of the fight against her.

Lastly and most dangerous for you is you can throw a light as soon as you see her feint, if she goes for a gb, you got her, if she went for the bash (depending on how fast you are) you can hit her out of it. But if she tried to bait you, you might just eat a lot of damage. Valk is good at interrupting, so try and harass her by getting in a little damage and getting out. Try to bait and parry interrupts.

[chaneke1984]

Most Valks rely too much on the sweep, watch for it, it's pretty easy to avoid and they cannot feint it, just dodge.

[Siegfried-Z]

Sweep is still punishable by most heroes by a Dodge attack or Dodge into bash zone etc.

If you play Glad a Dodge light or Dodge bash gonna work against it.

Anyway Glad vs Valk is not at all a Glad side match up... while Glad doest not really have match up in his favor saddly.

Cent is not really good against her either. What are all the heroes you are playing ? I am sure one of them is a good pick against her, its not like if Valk was anywhere near to S tier.

[Sweaty_Sock]

Most Valks rely too much on the sweep, watch for it, it's pretty easy to avoid and they cannot feint it, just dodge.

Recovery window means you just survived.. not punished. A mistake costs 35. A misread costs a light finish with all your stamina, a heavy GB = a splat into the combo again. Its an assassin with the best parts of 'hybrid' and none of the flaws, orochis spam with mixups and crushing counter on the startup along with superior block dodge (that can still deflect)...

[TOCKSYK]

Sweep is still punishable by most heroes by a Dodge attack or Dodge into bash zone etc.

If you play Glad a Dodge light or Dodge bash gonna work against it.

Anyway Glad vs Valk is not at all a Glad side match up... while Glad doest not really have match up in his favor saddly.

Cent is not really good against her either. What are all the heroes you are playing ? I am sure one of them is a good pick against her, its not like if Valk was anywhere near to S tier.

I play only Centurion, Gladiator and Shinobi. Valk claps me the most when I'm playing Shinobi, but that's logical, can't use kick against her

[TrondurIGotu]

I agree. I feel she has way too many mix-ups. The only real punish is if you dodge the heavy feint and parry a follow up attack if there is one. Even if you do that once, they just wont do it again if they are not dumb.

[TOCKSYK]

I agree. I feel she has way too many mix-ups. The only real punish is if you dodge the heavy feint and parry a follow up attack if there is one. Even if you do that once, they just wont do it again if they are not dumb.

Just feel like the character became a little too safe for comfort. Safer than Shinobi

[chaneke1984]

I can tell you, as a Valk main, that his sweep is highly punishable. At some point I stopped using it as much because of that.
Her light side finishers can be blocked or dodged on reaction, and when you see a heavy finisher coming, just be ready to dodge, you can easily block them, but they can be soft fainted into a shield bash that restarts her combo, or simply light interrup her.

[Siegfried-Z]

I agree. I feel she has way too many mix-ups. The only real punish is if you dodge the heavy feint and parry a follow up attack if there is one. Even if you do that once, they just wont do it again if they are not dumb.

Valk is called "mix up intensive" because she has good chains. But please explain what are these "too many mix ups" about ?

Lets see what are Valk options on her heavy :
-Feint GB : which does not work at all with Valk because no one early Dodge her heavy for the simple reason than no one is afraid of being hit by a 13dmg bash into light.
-Feint into another heavy : which does not work cuz as said above Valk does not force a reaction and anyway her heavy are too slow to make this usefull as Glad for example.
-Feint into light/dodge light : again it is most of Times useless as no reaction are forced and in Valk case the animation of the light feint is very telegraphed.
-Softfeint bash : which is what people are doing 90% of Times. Confirm only 13dmg and is punishable by any Dodge attack in the game. If you dont have Dodge attack then its a read, do i GB or wait for a parry.

Other Valk mix up is when she is in a position to sweep. So what are her options :
-Sweep : which is 100% dodgeable on reaction and punishable by any Dodge attack plus Dodge into fast zone or bash zone as BP.
-GB : which is CGB almost always since the sweep is REACTABLE.
-Light : top light may work as its 400ms. So just keep guard top and look for the 500ms 12DMG side light. I would add that against heroes with deflect they often deflect the side light by mistake as they Dodge on indicator thinking it the sweep.
-heavy finisher : which, as we already highlights in the first part of the comment does not really have good pressure outside of a 13dmg punishable bash.

Just feel like the character became a little too safe for comfort. Safer than Shinobi

What is safe in Valk Kit ?
Sweep is punishable by anything else than a GB.
Zone attack has a 700ms start up.
Shield tackle (full block) is GBable on start up and you cant moove/dodge out of it anymore.
Shield crush (bash) is punishable.
Heavy are slow and does not force any reaction.
Dodge attack are considered as lights which means hardly punish if baited.

Valk is far from being a safe heroe to play, so she isnt by any means comparable to Shinobi.

Maybe a nerf on her CC damage lol its the highest in the game rn

Valk CC are 27dmg. HL are 30, WL are 28, Shaolin are 35, Warden is 55.
Her CC dmg is in the low part, it has never been even close to be the highest in the game.

His sweep is not highly punishable. it is only punishable if you have a dodge attack

Not only by Dodge attack.

For example many zone attacks may work after the Dodge.

Most heroes can punish her sweep atm.

Only one unable to do so are :
Cent
WL
HL if in DS when dodging, if he is in OS he can
Shugo
Hito


From here my post is a general answer. Valk is not Garbage anymore but still far to be a strong heroe.
An average B tier heroe at best.

Her flow is kind of fast but anything she has is reactable, punishable and does not have a good pressure.

She is not a popular heroe so i think most people are just not use to fight her.

Valk has no UB, no HA. Zone is only good at cleaning minions. FB is as Broken as WL one. Dmg are at best average/low. Her perks are garbage. She has assassin HP. Dodge attack have no frame and are hardly punished.

The only area where she is strong is her Deflect. She has a really good one.