Quick question, how is Breakpoint less tactical than Wildlands? | Forums

[GAP_Computer]

And i assume it was a headshot???

some where head shot, some others not

[ManticButton]

so the gear score system really kills tactics especially since the whole system relies on you to constantly throw away gear for other random gear

so lets say you want to snipe too bad the game never dropped one
or maybe you wan't to bust out a belt fed machine gun too bad it's 8 levels lower and will tank your gear score

using any other tactic other than head shot stealth is a draw of the cards because some enemy's are magically harder to kill and have faster reaction times than others
wan't to ambush the enemy than flank around them in the confusion? better hope you have a high enough gear score for them to not sponge bullets

[FNDMNTAL]

some where head shot, some others not

same experience here, one shot in the chest (TAC50 with suppressor) was enough to kill the alarmed LVL 150 wolves.

[AI BLUEFOX]

so the gear score system really kills tactics especially since the whole system relies on you to constantly throw away gear for other random gear

so lets say you want to snipe too bad the game never dropped one
or maybe you wan't to bust out a belt fed machine gun too bad it's 8 levels lower and will tank your gear score

using any other tactic other than head shot stealth is a draw of the cards because some enemy's are magically harder to kill and have faster reaction times than others
wan't to ambush the enemy than flank around them in the confusion? better hope you have a high enough gear score for them to not sponge bullets

If you want a particular gun and then keep it a level, you go find the Blueprint, which is in a specific location. It's not that much different to how certain weapons were unlocked in Wildlands, although you do need resources to build it. I don't know yet how much of a pain that will be in the final release.

[RaulO4]

both wild lands and breakpoints is less tactical than originals ghost recon game. the AI was design for facing one player not dealing with a Squad...break point even more so. thus AI not needed to be design around the fact there gonna be 6 soldiers and the player can controller each one. to top it off...the game health system is also to support this one player mindset as well.

the main issue is not even it being more or less tactical in the first please. its that with each new ghost recon the Authentic and realism drops each time which is the greater problem. aka for comparison sake... COD MF is now more realistic and authentic than a Tom Clancy Ghost Recon game.

[ManticButton]

If you want a particular gun and then keep it a level, you go find the Blueprint, which is in a specific location. It's not that much different to how certain weapons were unlocked in Wildlands, although you do need resources to build it. I don't know yet how much of a pain that will be in the final release.

since they now allow you to do it in the bivouac it won't be too bad especially if the currency drop and earn rate is like the closed beta

but it is different because the new gun is the new gun and then I have to re equip the attachments and re paint it
but attachments are so limited and worthless now it's really not that big of a deal mainly just repainting it

it's still mildly annoying and shouldn't have been in the game in the first place
oh no players are playing with the guns they like better shove in gear score grind

honestly the thing is gear score just over time really sucks and it seems like the game is bending over backwards to appease it

you can explore anywhere except over there
we removed options from gunsmith so our variants can pad the loot pool
we forced you to get missions in the social hub so you have to see other players and there loot
you can use whatever gun you wan't but you'll have to grind for it and bring your game to a halt every X amount of minutes

it just feels so tacked on and I really think they're gonna get flak for this come the "game jurno" reviews
the problem is the system isn't fun to interact with and it offers no depth because if it did rarer loot would offer significant advantages making the game unbalanced as a tactical shooter so their loot and gear score system has to be the absolute bare minimum making it a chore to interact with

honestly why did they think it was a god idea in the first place

[AI BLUEFOX]

I agree with you, I certainly don't mean to defend the system! It is a matter of tolerating it for me.

[fastastoast]

I agree with the more tactical comments. The opposing team can counter pretty much any of the ghosts advantages, u have to think about your assault more than in Wildlands. Not just thin their numbers then move in. Also depends on the class, I had a struggle with a particular base with field medic but walked it with panther. Definitely more tactical imo.

[Ghost416]

I keep seeing people say that breakpoint is not tactical but act like Wildlands was.

What? How is that so? I don't understand this at all so please explain if you don't mind because I don't see it. The looter shooter portion of the game does not make the gameplay less tactical.

So what exactly is it we are talking about here?

For me, it's mainly the lack of an AI squad that limits options. The squad in GRW may have had its limitations, but at least assaulting an encampment from different directions was possible. Not so in GRB, which basically forces me into a Metal Gear playstyle. And if I wanted to play Metal Gear, I'd buy Metal Gear.

[ManticButton]

I agree with you, I certainly don't mean to defend the system! It is a matter of tolerating it for me.

exact same here right now it seems tolerable if there is a level cap

however if they decide to raise it with dlc or something that's it I'm out I'm not gonna finally start collecting and upgrading guns so a month from now it becomes worthless

that's one of the main reasons I got wildlands lots of highly customisable guns to collect and set up for different purposes however I wan't and breakpoint just took that and curb stomped it with variants and the least options we've ever had in gunsmith on top of having to constantly grind guns just sucks