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  1. #1
    TOCKSYK's Avatar Banned
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    People get carried by bots in 2v2 (Shinobi completely sucks)

    Was playing Shinobi and the enemy gets a lvl 3 Orochi. Yeah, I might as well stop there. Parrying every light attack attempt, sometimes he would even deflect too. If I tried to dodge even once he does a gb and I eat a lot of damage. Couldn't beat the bot at all, I was close once but then he ledged me by feinting his 50 dmg deflect into a gb

    Wow Ubisoft. Way to go. At least you could make Lvl 2 Bots a cap in 2v2 so people are not actually carried to victory by A.I. . How was I supposed to win against a lvl 3 Orochi bot? Turtle up? Yeah right, what a way to play the game, sit and look at the enemy and pray you can parry his 466 ms lights


    [EDIT]:

    And I don't even find Shinobi as a viable character anymore. Now that he gets light attacked out of anything, LITERALLY ANYTHING, what are you gonna do? Your kick is not a viable option anymore, trying to quad dash + kick is a suicide mission ending with a blade through your skull. He had super armor on his kicks before, but at least he could've kept the hyper armor OR AT LEAST THE NORMAL BACKFLIP DISTANCE. Tiandi can just forward light that shizzy backflip. Light spammers in general are a nightmare to deal with, people who can react to his smoke from double dash can just light you out of any combo, Backflip crush still is irrelevant

    Ubisoft tried to make Shinobi less annoying and they still managed to make him even more annoying since now you have to resort to cheap tactics and running away to have a chance of surviving

    So what is a Shinobi player supposed to do? I love playing him as my second main but God is it trash.Should I just throw a zone here and there and a little light from time to time and run away because I die in 2 heavies? I feel like they just love Raider and Hitokiri and the rest of the cast is getting thrown away, literally everyone hates those heroes, smh, yet those are the ones getting the most love
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    Level 3 bots need a redesign, sometimes I get them in actual 1v1 too. They should be updated in the following way:


    1. Plant a few mixup variants, which they keep repeating. Not easy ones, actually very advanced ones, which they mix up, but are actually beatable. I am suriprised actually how well some bots use their kit. However...
    2. Stop them from countering everything. Literally everything. Make them counter repeated stuff, like if I always just light-light, I am fine if they parry my second light consistently, or if I always use a specific softfeint, I am okay with them countering it some way. But no player will pinpoint with 100% accuracy that I will use a zone or a left heavy in that exact moment, and which one it will be, and then deflect/parry it.


    Also, there are only a few oppressive level 3 bots. I fought some that were strong but beatable, but there are gods among them, and they were the same hero. I think all programmed differently, and some were made extremely strong.
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  3. #3
    I usually find level three bots to be easy or impossible. They either fall for everything or parry everything, dodge everything, and time gbs that no human could pull off.
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  4. #4
    if its a 1 on 1 I can only beat level 3 bots with the black prior bash light bash. if im not using black prior and encounter a level 3 bot i run away and find help. its clear that they read inputs
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