Deflect VS Hyper Armor | Forums

[DeamonXII]

Do you guys think deflect should be able to defeat hyper armor or deflect should stay as it is?

[DeamonXII]

Please type your opinion too if you want

[DeamonXII]

After watching freeze's video about this, it sounds like he is the god among god in for honor(i disagree with his opinion about this and think that deflect is punishable enough without the need to make hyper armor able to punish it)

[DeamonXII]

Not really Freeze is a decent player but no way near a god. He just have great amount of knowledge about the game but he is only a decent player

His head is somewhat full of for honor science, and what do you think about deflect vs hyper armor?

[Vakris_One]

Deflect should ignore HA

Why should deflect ignore hyper armour when it should be the player's job to recognise when to use a deflect and when not? That's basicaly asking for a game mechanic to reward a player for making bad decisions, which is what Freeze points out.

[DeamonXII]

This gonna be hard to balance and how about a suggestion that deflect is guranteed if you deflect a heavy(since you should be able to feint it and make people miss the deflect), since i feel that some prefer HA over deflect and deflecting light is easier than something feintable.

[Vakris_One]

Glad, PK and many other heroes with deflects get their deflects interrupted with HA protected attacks. Only Shinobi and Zerk can avoid this and orochi with his light attack deflect. Assassins are already pretty weak there are obviously good ones like shaman zerk and etc but overall they are completely outlclassed against vanguards and hybrids

The fact that most assassins need work isn't really a good enough excuse to just let all deflects ignore hyper armour and simply call it a day. The problems with heroes like Glad and PK aren't going to be solved by letting them deflect through hyper armour. You need to address the core of each assassin's problems otherwise those problems will remain.

Rather than giving all assassins a blanket get out of jail free card for poor decision making against hyper armour I would want to see more assassins being given 2 deflect options like what Orochi has. One being a normal deflect and the other option being a deflect that specifically defeats hyper armour such as a bash or having hyper armour itself but having a slower animation. This way there will be some actual depth added to deflect choices based on what the situation is.

[Knight_Raime]

It shouldn't. However there should be options for assassins. Ala Vakris suggestion.
Because in that case you'd need to know that the follow up would be a HA move. And if said option did exist then said player with chained HA could attempt to read your deflect attempt and then punish it via baiting it.

[LightUpTheEyes]

The fact that most assassins need work isn't really a good enough excuse to just let all deflects ignore hyper armour and simply call it a day. The problems with heroes like Glad and PK aren't going to be solved by letting them deflect through hyper armour. You need to address the core of each assassin's problems otherwise those problems will remain.

Rather than giving all assassins a blanket get out of jail free card for poor decision making against hyper armour I would want to see more assassins being given 2 deflect options like what Orochi has. One being a normal deflect and the other option being a deflect that specifically defeats hyper armour such as a bash or having hyper armour itself but having a slower animation. This way there will be some actual depth added to deflect choices based on what the situation is.

That's actually a pretty solid idea. However if they were to implement that, I'd prefer them take out zerks gb and replace it with two kit specific deflects like everyone would have. While making the heavy deflect for everyone be able to execute.

[Valoredramack]

His head is somewhat full of for honor science, and what do you think about deflect vs hyper armor?

Freeze is extremely overrated, he doesn't account for everything and yet some sycophantic players pretend that he does. In fact, he's probably one of the reasons why Ubisoft nerfed the Shinobi into the ground without any compensation because his videos lacked acknowledgement of the Shinobi's vulnerabilities.

As far as Deflect, yes I believe that it should be able to counter Hyper Armor.