Who do you think should receive a rework next | Forums

[KingOfThe735]

After season 12, I want to know who do you think needs fundamental
changes, like cent's rework, who do you think needs medium changes, and who do you think needs numbers changes.

Just wanted to know what other people thought. My opinion is that a lot of character's are coming close to not requiring big adjustments anymore, they have a kit that works, but I also think some character's fall behind.

[TheUberDome]

Honestly, I think that shinobi needs a rework, and not some weak **** like they did with warlord, I mean like they did with kensei, a full moveset change.

[Goat_of_Vermund]

My thoughts:

Red Priority (full rework, big changes): none, if we do not count tg characters.
Orange priority (medium changes): Raider (mainly nerfs), Jormungandr (more mixups, less stamina damage on punishes), Hitokiri (hyperarmor nerfs), Shinobi (damage nerfs, more mixups), aramusha (damage nerfs, some mixups, blockade buff), Nobushi (some buffs that help her attacking)
Yellow priority: Peacekeeper (some more buffs, like faster dodge attacks that chain), Lawbringer (more pressure, less oppressive punishes), Black Prior (shieldbash recovery nerf on the chained bash), Warlord (some buffs beyond testing grounds), Orochi (less **** stormrush), Nuxia (minor light nerf and trap buff)

[AChighur]

Hitokiri. He should not be able to cancel his fast bash into GB, and the animation on his unblockable heavy into GB should be reworked too, because it's actually pretty hard to read.

The devs also needs to find another way to make the game more offensive than just giving hyper armor on 1st heavy to every characters : it just has the opposite effect.

[KingOfThe735]

Uber dome, I also think shinobi is fundamentally broken and that he needs a great rework, he has too much problems. But as a shinobi main myself, I don't think he should get better mix-ups in chains like kensei but rather a focus to improve mix-ups within dodges and kicks.

I already made a post on how I think he could receive kensei like changes, that would be the least expansive.

For the rest I'm not a comp player, just familiar with high level play overall and don't think any other hero should receive "big" fundamanetal changes. I used to believe season 11 would bring us both a good cent and shinobi rework, but I was wrong.

[allenhollow]

top priority ARAMUSHA, shinobi, highlander

[KingOfThe735]

For hitokiri, I think better animations, hyper armor like jormungandr on first heavy and it's all done.

[KingOfThe735]

Musha needs help I agree, but he doesn't need extreme changes to his animations, new moves... No he needs something like zerker had, property changes mostly and better blade blockable.

Highlander needs medium changes also

Shinobi is a priority to me cause he needs new moves

[Goat_of_Vermund]

His fast bash is 500ms which is what conq and BP has. And his cancelling grants him his vortex same with Warden. But that instant HA on his heavy needs a delay asap...

Yep, same speed, twice the damage. And hyperarmor on it. Fine, less recovery too.

[KingOfThe735]

Tbh I never found the kick mix-up op or anything. You have to make a guess. Maybe damage on first heavy when landing the kick should be reduced to 25., in the other hand they should give hito a better zone attack. In comparison, highlander also has this kind of fifty fifty, but instead it garantees 40 damage and people say he's weak.

As for highlander I think his kick should be feintable and softfeintable to offensive stance. His lights should also get to 500 ms and after that I think he's okay.