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[Ohnoozer]

I have been a ghost recon fan since the original when it was only on PC and in a first person view only….with no visible gun. Was like a floating eyeball….kind of odd now that I think about it.

Anyway, it’s exactly the same crying now as it was back in the day. People are pissed about this and that and how it’s not what THEY think Ghost Recon should be.

Heck I remember when the fans went completely crazy when they found out there was going to be a 3rd person view. And now look…3rd person is the default view and most you guys never knew it any other way. I don’t like or agree with the direction of everything they are doing. Personally I would do away with the looter shooter thing and driving…completely. I think driving is incredibly stupid in a Ghost Recon game. I think the bad acting, cookie cutter bad guys and somewhat poor ai is also frustrating. And I hate that they continue to blend games…this should imo be ghost recon and not a farcry, assassins creed, the division mix.

But you know what…I’ll take it for what it is and I’ll enjoy the parts I do like. To act like the game is total trash is just a massive exaggeration imo. I do understand the frustration when you have passion for a game but I also understand that the disappointment can really mess with your perception. IMO it’s got good bones and if they continue to clean it up it could be a great game.

Just my thoughts…no need to attack me.

[bungyfreek.]

Dude, good post. The game has some good points, some bad. Overall its enjoyable. I had a laugh playing with me mates and enjoyed it solo trying to take bases on my own. Wildands was way less tactical than this imo. I can remember spending 20 mins trying to scope out a base figure where all the ads are just for a mate to join my session and go gunho into the base with a jeep and a LMG. Ruined the stealth but was fun to watch even if it felt arcade at the time. I feel this IP is less forgiving in this regard. This was back before Teir 1 and Ghost modes, which was probably why we were able to get away with it.

Unfortunately the whole gaming industry looks at what they think appeals to the masses and implement that. No matter what the haters say its all driven by the meta data which all these companies have in masses. This is why Arma is the only real tactical shooter out there imo. Popular with its player base but will never have a mass appeal. The majority of gamers only play for a couple of hours anight so need a game you can dive in, do your stuff and feel rewarded for your time, this is why loot systems are popular.

I don't necessarily agree with its implementation in this instance as the franchise is strong enough without but understand why its there.

[Kean_1]

Just my thoughts…no need to attack me.

Well, when you describe people as "crying", that's a little hypocritical don't you think? After all, you create a thread meant to be completely dismissive of those who disagree so you're kinda setting yourself up in that respect.

Either way, I'm not interested in attacking anyone.

For me, it all boils down to how much someone is able to compromise in these games. It is rare that I ever come across a game that has absolutely no flaws in my eyes. I don't think that has ever happened to me now that i think about it. Most times, there are issues, bugs or simply aspects I don't like. However, there are also other components I find in the game that I do enjoy. GRW is a great example of that.

That game had flaws. I also felt they didn't take the game far enough in the direction they were going but I thought it could be improved upon and even if not, there was enough there that I felt I could really enjoy. .....and I did along with my friends.

With GRB, it's just the opposite for me. It simply didn't tick enough boxes in the right column for me. I'm glad you found enough in the game to grab your interest but that doesn't mean everyone else will too. Some of us simply have more issues with more aspects of the game that you do. ....simple as that.

You say the game has great bones. ....I disagree (personally). GRW had great bones and was ripe for expansion on that original vision IMO. GRB went a different direction in several ways. .....too many ways for me.

[Bahger1960]

No. It’s trash.

[Quardle]

I agree with some points you have brought to attention. I for one, don't focus on the things I dislike about a game, only if I really like the game. I do understand where you are coming from with your post regarding some negatives about the game. But agree with playing it for what it is instead of focusing on what it should be. I will take it for what it is. I had no idea this is the approach they would take for ghost recon.

The looting and leveled gear. Although, at the end of the day, I completely get it. While I played Division in one shot, got close to the top level, and just quit, I had a blast the whole time, but it was missing something for me at the end of the day.

Wildlands was always a favorite of mine, because I could mess around solo or co-op and make the world my own. I platinumed the trophies, and just kept on playing because it was had such a rewarding feel. Not for the story, just for the freedom. I did get bored of it and played other games, but always came back from time to time. While I don't necessarily agree with the loot system in breakpoint, I completely get it.

To conclude, Breakpoint (so far) has not taken away any freedom from the gameplay at all as far as I'm concerned, and adding to the stealth aspect which is what I favored in wildlands, I am overall very happy with what they have done in breakpoint for what its worth. The looting and gear score, as I am sure was their goal, may or may not keep me coming back in the long run. Tier one was cool, but I think gear score may be better to keep people coming back.

[Ohnoozer]

Well, when you describe people as "crying", that's a little hypocritical don't you think? After all, you create a thread meant to be completely dismissive of those who disagree so you're kinda setting yourself up in that respect.

Either way, I'm not interested in attacking anyone.

For me, it all boils down to how much someone is able to compromise in these games. It is rare that I ever come across a game that has absolutely no flaws in my eyes. I don't think that has ever happened to me now that i think about it. Most times, there are issues, bugs or simply aspects I don't like. However, there are also other components I find in the game that I do enjoy. GRW is a great example of that.

That game had flaws. I also felt they didn't take the game far enough in the direction they were going but I thought it could be improved upon and even if not, there was enough there that I felt I could really enjoy. .....and I did along with my friends.

With GRB, it's just the opposite for me. It simply didn't tick enough boxes in the right column for me. I'm glad you found enough in the game to grab your interest but that doesn't mean everyone else will too. Some of us simply have more issues with more aspects of the game that you do. ....simple as that.

You say the game has great bones. ....I disagree (personally). GRW had great bones and was ripe for expansion on that original vision IMO. GRB went a different direction in several ways. .....too many ways for me.

I'm not dismissing anything at all. In fact I pointed out the things I felt were problems and I said "I do understand the frustration when you have passion for a game but I also understand that the disappointment can really mess with your perception".
If it's worth buying or not is up to the individual. In your case it is not and I completely understand that. That said a lot of people just throw a fit if they see something they don't like and make a blanket statement over something that may not be that big of a deal. Like this game is total trash and they need to start over blah blah...so dramatic. I get expressing disappointment in things you don't like but seriously some people act like such children about it.

[Halli-SPARTA]

No. It’s trash.

If it' trash! Why are you even here?????
Why are you posting in a forum about game you don't like of care for?

Go play whatever game you THINK this one should be and stop trolling folks that want a mature
conversation about a game they are going to play.

[zack991]

Then you are not a fan of the series, we are all making our voices heard as much as possible with the hope that someone in power will see and say hold on we have a issue here guys. If you dont speak up nothing can change.

[Bahger1960]

If it' trash! Why are you even here?????
Why are you posting in a forum about game you don't like of care for?

Go play whatever game you THINK this one should be and stop trolling folks that want a mature
conversation about a game they are going to play.

Very easy question to answer. This miserable game represents the very worst kind of corporate greed and exploitation of a captive audience. It’s the same thing that’s turning the American film industry into nothing more than a factory for brain-dead superhero franchises for which they own the IP. If nobody stands up against this kind of cynicism and profiteering before it’s too late then games will go the same way as movies. Play Control on a good PC and you will see what a game can accomplish when it isn’t driven entirely by lowest common denominator cynicism and ruthless exploitation of the consumer.

[Ohnoozer]

Then you are not a fan of the series, we are all making our voices heard as much as possible with the hope that someone in power will see and say hold on we have a issue here guys. If you dont speak up nothing can change.

It's not that I'm not a fan of the series. That's just a ridiculous statement. I have been a GR fan from the start and I have been on both sides of this in that I was the one "crying" back in the day. But I do enjoy the game still. Even with the ridiculous driving and other things that I felt should not be here.

Again I completely understand the complaints and think you should share your opinion to the devs. But don't do it in a way that comes across like an over dramatic child who is cry because it's not exactly what you want.

Tell them what you don't like but crying "start over it's total trash" is not going to help and imo is far from true.