1. #1
    OK yea these beauties!! ahha yep does America still field any of these? I mean yea we now have all the power of them harpoons and 5 inch Guns and of course nothing like a Nimitz Class Nuclear Powered Aircraft Carriers...but battleships are meant to be CAPITAL ships!!! to be worked with CVN support ahha i think i might be getting carried away ahha. Ok so are any of them battle ships still being fielded since the alst Iowa class battleship was decomissioned in 1991?

    I mean come on guys these battleships Do look Good don't they!? ahha
    Share this post

  2. #2
    OK yea these beauties!! ahha yep does America still field any of these? I mean yea we now have all the power of them harpoons and 5 inch Guns and of course nothing like a Nimitz Class Nuclear Powered Aircraft Carriers...but battleships are meant to be CAPITAL ships!!! to be worked with CVN support ahha i think i might be getting carried away ahha. Ok so are any of them battle ships still being fielded since the alst Iowa class battleship was decomissioned in 1991?

    I mean come on guys these battleships Do look Good don't they!? ahha
    Share this post

  3. #3
    Neg, my fellow battlewagon-fan. All four Iowas are laid up in various locations, decommissioned between 1991 and 1992, and stricken from the Navy's list in January of 1995. Such a shame too; while nowhere near as deadly as a carrier and her airwing, it was quite a site watching those monsters let loose with their 16-inchers in person.
    Share this post

  4. #4
    DuxCorvan's Avatar Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Posts
    5,973
    Ahha! Doo bee doo bee doo! Battleships are not so useful in modern naval war, ahha! Yoopah! They're too big targets, whoops! Easy to detect, yuck, yuck, ahha! And so expensive to build and maintain! Jabbadabbadoo! Since modern naval surface warfare occurs mostly beyond visual contact and range of cannons... gngngn... they favour small fast ships armed with AS missiles, AA systems, ASW stuff, fast guns, potent radar and computer links for better tactical awareness. Even if -waaaaaasap!- Iowa class ships are still formidable weapons, they're too vulnerable and too visible in a modern tactical theatre. Heeeey! Last time they were used as ground support units -due to the range and accuracy of their guns- but only after ensuring air & surface superiority in the area. Yeeeeah! So they're more expensive than useful, now. Yoooopie! Ahha!

    Share this post

  5. #5
    DuxCorvan u make a Very good point there! ahah but imagine a battlehsip like an Iowa class but mroe advanced with Aegis radars and VLS tubes lots of CWISes Imagine how well it'd b able to defend a carrier!! imagine the amount of weapons it can carry! Anti ship, air, submarine U name it! it'd b a real show of NAVAL POWER...WHEEE!!!
    Share this post

  6. #6
    DuxCorvan's Avatar Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Posts
    5,973
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by IZT:
    DuxCorvan u make a Very good point there! ahah but imagine a battlehsip like an Iowa class but mroe advanced with Aegis radars and VLS tubes lots of CWISes Imagine how well it'd b able to defend a carrier!! imagine the amount of weapons it can carry! Anti ship, air, submarine U name it! it'd b a real show of NAVAL POWER...WHEEE!!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Nothing that can't be done by a pair of frigates at half the cost...

    Believe me, those guys aren't stupid, if they have decomissioned it is for some good reason... and I think is efficiency vs. cost.
    Share this post

  7. #7
    The trend is clearly towards "Stealth" fleets. A BB will not fit in there. A real problem is also the design of CVs. Landing and starting compromises the stealthiness, even if the other "practical" problems can be solved.

    But very interesting development at the moment.

    Cheers
    Share this post

  8. #8
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
    Believe me, those guys aren't stupid, if they have decomissioned it is for some good reason... and I think is efficiency vs. cost. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Yes, I'm sure that a 1940's era ship the size of the Iowa would cost a bundle to deploy/maintain - and for what real purpose?

    Barkhorn.
    Share this post

  9. #9
    VW-IceFire's Avatar Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Posts
    13,650
    If you look at the designs for the future navy you've got cruiser size and down for the most part. Only carriers being larger.

    The destroyers become a fast attack ship which is pretty low in the water, all angled surfaces, a gun for the necessary short range ability and then lots of missile tubes.

    The cruisers become the core of battlegroups...I've read about a design where the main mast is extendable to create different radar signatures (appearing as an oil tanker or appearing as a fishing boat depending on setting). Again, all angled, fairly small, fast, lots of missiles.

    Really only the carrier remains large...necessarily so. And then its got its defenses inherent...the carrier air wing (with ranges hundreds of KM), the battlegroup, its own short range defensive abilities.

    Battleships are kind of the odd ones out. Too big and too easy a target for a ship killer missile. A few of those and your BB is out of the fight.

    The battleship was never really able to come into its own. They were designed largely before WWI (the battleship/dreadnought idea) and by the time they had a chance to fight...the sumbarine had become the new weapon of the day. Then the airplane in WWII. The Yamato and the other japanese Battleships were all damaged, sunk, attacked by aircraft that lead to their doom.

    Still...they have a powerful mystique around them. Impressive pieces of engineering.
    Share this post

  10. #10
    macd1102's Avatar Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Yorktown, Va
    Posts
    46
    sounds good, but not true, 21 yrs in the navy and still counting, cruisers never where and never will be the focal point of a battle group, they are escorts, which means there escorting something, ie carriers or before pearl harbor it was the battleship, we where forced to utilize carriers because of the tremendous loss of our battleship fleet, as far as current times, the main reason for decomming the battleships was cost, nothing to do with size, cost to operate the battleships was tremendous, the current ships you speak of are agis class, they to are now decomming, slowly but its happening, big waiste, but they made frigates obsolete, only a very few deploy with task forces today, most independent steam on drug ops in the southcom, with a coastguard detachment
    Share this post

Page 1 of 6 123 ... Last ►►