Please fix unbalanced pvp levels | Forums

[KingxMac]

Hey can you please fix the level gaps. I’m level 12 there’s no way I should be fighting someone that is level 18 that’s a easy win for the other person. It really make the game not fun because how can I rank up if every time I play it’s someone that’s at least 3-6 levels ahead of me. It should be at least a 2 level gap both ways. Meaning if I’m level 12 then I should only be fighting ppl that are from Lv. 10-14. Keeps me in the same rank class and offers good competition .

[nik_lin]

I agree that it sucks, but where in the ladder are you?

The problem is if you only keep playing against players who are the same level as you then you can become world leader on top of the entire PvP ladder just by winning against people your own level. Instead of facing whoever is actually in each segment of the ladder.

Sometimes you simply hit a wall when you climb "too far" in the ladder compared to your own level. And sometimes you meet a lot of de-rankers who just like easy wins. So it all depends where in the ladder you are at level 12.

[UbiBuck_]

Nik_lin is right here, it's possible that players go on a big winning streak and end up at a higher arena than they should.

Also, while New Kid level does matter to some extent (extra HP and ATK for your New Kid), it doesn't necessarily mean that the player is stronger. For example, if you've focused all your upgrades on two themes you could be a level 10 New Kid and someone else could have leveled all their cards evenly, and they could be New Kid level 14, but their single-deck levels could be lower than yours. That's why we can't just matchmake based on New Kid level.

[UbiBuck_]

Nik_lin is right here, it's possible that players go on a big winning streak and end up at a higher arena than they should.

Also, while New Kid level does matter to some extent (extra HP and ATK for your New Kid), it doesn't necessarily mean that the player is stronger. For example, if you've focused all your upgrades on two themes you could be a level 10 New Kid and someone else could have leveled all their cards evenly, and they could be New Kid level 14, but their single-deck levels could be lower than yours. That's why we can't just matchmake based on New Kid level.

[evanddavidson]

Why not just match players based on two filters, one for PVP score and one for New Kid level? .... That would take me all of 3 mins to code... What is Ubisoft doing?

[nik_lin]

Why not just match players based on two filters, one for PVP score and one for New Kid level? .... That would take me all of 3 mins to code... What is Ubisoft doing?

Even though I would also like to play against people who are the same level as me, how do you expect the ladder to work? If I am level 10 and keep facing level 10 players I will climb the ladder when I win, since I get rewarded ELO.

But if Im matched by level, I will never face the people who are in the same place as me in the ladder, so Im pretty much bypassing the entire ladder system. In theory I can climb to the top without the need to level up or face real competition.

[nik_lin]

Dont get me wrong, Im not saying the current system is perfect and I wouldnt mind if we could have unranked PvP where we got matched up by player levels, that would still count towards PvP packs and events. Then most games should be more even and more fun.

Just not sure that a quick 3 minutes fix to match by level would solve the current ladder's issues.

[evanddavidson]

A floor and cap for levels can just be put in and players can be matched with those with a comparable ELO. Admitted it's not a perfect solution but it's way better than playing against those 6+ levels higher and there is no way to get a perfect solution because the fundamental designs of the game are flawed.

[MarionCobre2019]

I dont see anything wrong with pvp matching. Also by the way you said the fundamental designs the game are flawed? Are we pretending to be video game designer graduate now or what? What's with all these fake professionals coming on the forums saying stuff like that. That's your opinion man make sure that when you say things like the fundamental whatever is flawed make sure that you say in my opinion because that's all it is just your opinion. I don't think this game is fundamentally flawed.

[nik_lin]

A floor and cap for levels can just be put in and players can be matched with those with a comparable ELO. Admitted it's not a perfect solution but it's way better than playing against those 6+ levels higher and there is no way to get a perfect solution because the fundamental designs of the game are flawed.

A level based floor cap WAS actually announced when they introduced the entire PvP floor (that is currently running). However, after that I have seen no mention of it. I guess in theory you could push people upwards automatically based on their levels, like if you are level 21 then you automatically get put at the bottom of legendary and cant drop out. But - as I said - it has not been mentioned since AFAIK.

[evanddavidson]

I dont see anything wrong with pvp matching. Also by the way you said the fundamental designs the game are flawed? Are we pretending to be video game designer graduate now or what? What's with all these fake professionals coming on the forums saying stuff like that. That's your opinion man make sure that when you say things like the fundamental whatever is flawed make sure that you say in my opinion because that's all it is just your opinion. I don't think this game is fundamentally flawed.

The game is fundamentally flawed. Anyone can see that. It is also massively underperforming. It is a South Park IP that isn't even top 1000 in app games... that's horrible!