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    So can raider get nerfed already?

    He's breaking dominion.
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    Dude, they nerfed Nobu because 'she's good at clearing minions.' Their new character is just another spam bot. What makes you think, in this current age of brainless creation and nerfs, they have ANY idea what to do with Raider?
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    Originally Posted by Rhyza. Go to original post
    Dude, they nerfed Nobu because 'she's good at clearing minions.' Their new character is just another spam bot. What makes you think, in this current age of brainless creation and nerfs, they have ANY idea what to do with Raider?
    I think they do actually. He does slightly too much damage for the versatility in his kit and his delayed ST is too fast.
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    Originally Posted by Tyrjo Go to original post
    I think they do actually. He does slightly too much damage for the versatility in his kit and his delayed ST is too fast.
    No no, I get it. I understand where the posts come from, I just have little faith in the devs actually doing something about it without bringing the nerf bat. When a character needs a chisel to fine tune what they have, devs usually bring a sledgehammer. Like Nobu.
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    Raider isnt only at the top of stats. I think this is maybe the first time since lunch we have a heroe without even a single negative match up.

    Poor Gladiator has 25% win rate against him thats a very huge gap.

    But btw, the only nerf he needs is a dmg one Imo.
    Combo zone should be nerf by 10dmg and all heavies by 5dmg because with his current aoe and kit thats really too easy for him to makes huge dmg in a short time.

    Plus devs can understand they have to be carefull with some heroes like Ara because despite good stats he is at the bottom of their top tier list.

    But Raider sit at the top of stats AND is S tier in these list. They should see this as a red warning they should fix asap.
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    Originally Posted by Siegfried-Z Go to original post
    Raider isnt only at the top of stats. I think this is maybe the first time since lunch we have a heroe without even a single negative match up.

    Poor Gladiator has 25% win rate against him thats a very huge gap.

    But btw, the only nerf he needs is a dmg one Imo.
    Combo zone should be nerf by 10dmg and all heavies by 5dmg because with his current aoe and kit thats really too easy for him to makes huge dmg in a short time.

    Plus devs can understand they have to be carefull with some heroes like Ara because despite good stats he is at the bottom of their top tier list.

    But Raider sit at the top of stats AND is S tier in these list. They should see this as a red warning they should fix asap.
    As is with last time they showed us stats win rates are irrelevant because the way they obtain the data is flawed.

    The only useful info from their stats that you can use is pick rates.
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    He needs a damage nerf and a nerf to his 300ms stunning tap. literally the fastest attack in the game AND it stuns and drains stam. it's just too good and rewarding for how easy it is to land with it being the fastest attack in the entire game
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    Originally Posted by Knight_Raime Go to original post
    As is with last time they showed us stats win rates are irrelevant because the way they obtain the data is flawed.

    The only useful info from their stats that you can use is pick rates.
    How is something as easy as getting win percentages flawed?
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    Originally Posted by Baggin_ Go to original post
    How is something as easy as getting win percentages flawed?
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitive...ance_win_rate/

    It's a lot to read and I suggest that you actually read all the links.
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    Originally Posted by Knight_Raime Go to original post
    As is with last time they showed us stats win rates are irrelevant because the way they obtain the data is flawed.

    The only useful info from their stats that you can use is pick rates.
    What is the way they collect it ? Dont remember.

    Anyway, i would be surprise they keep working on these stats each seasons if it means nothing.

    I would add that most major balancing problems in the game (heroes OP or UP) have been felt in the stats each Times so far.

    Raider is another example. We cant say these Raider stats are wrong looking at how the almost entire community agreed he needed and still need some.nerfs.

    Edit : i am going to read your reddit link when i can.
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