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    Let's finish this endless discussion. We go too far from the topic.
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    Dilmak joined to negotiate. What are your terms, great Elder Darklion? After all, you have not answered the question. How would you feel about reboot of AC?
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    I did it on the First page. You can see it. I just want to stop that discussion before it will go to a discourteous way. That's all.
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    Please forgive me, my mistake, missed your post, when I started to write. In fact, not reading them all. Actually, looks, like I agree with you, I mean a gameplay similar to PoP or AC2, but they are not going to make Witcher 4, so Origin and Odyssey are a good idea to fill the void, misthios and medjay are like school or manticore, or something, I appreciate this. I think the same about Hidden Blade, and Leap of Faith, free run, or parkour, whatever - these are main symbols of AC series.
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    Originally Posted by Dyzlav Go to original post
    Stay in your world of imagination, if you want, it's your right to be delusional. Pelasgian is Indoeuropean term for pre-Greek inhabitants of Peloponese, presumably means the same, what "german" in Celtic language, actually, just "neighbour" - this is because lands occupied by proto-Greeks bordered with so called Pelasgians, close to Minoans and Hatti, not to be confused with Hitites, who used Hatti name. Indoeuropeans are from Pontic Steppe, but previously from Siberia. Divided in three main groups, called by linguistics italo-celtic, indo-iranian (this terminology is controversial, but nevermind), and remnants of third are Baltic speakers, but they occupied Central Europe, presumably linked to Thracians and Dacians. Indoeuropean proto-Greeks were group between italo-celtic and alleged Baltic-Thracian, but Pelasgians are also proto-Greeks, not Indoeuropean speakers, many words from they language survived in Greek.
    You expose yourself with those lies. Prove your claims with credible sources. Pelasgian is a word of unknown etymology and meaning. Pelasgians were not proto-Greeks, they were PRE Greeks. There is a huge difference. They migrated to Greece without being Greeks themselves. They were a different tribe with different culture, language and ethnic origin. You are wrong on so many levels. For the love of Zeus, stop saying things that are downright false!!!!
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    Originally Posted by Dyzlav
    Please forgive me, my mistake, missed your post, when I started to write. In fact, not reading them all. Actually, looks, like I agree with you, I mean a gameplay similar to PoP or AC2, but they are not going to make Witcher 4, so Origin and Odyssey are a good idea to fill the void, misthios and medjay are like school or manticore, or something, I appreciate this. I think the same about Hidden Blade, and Leap of Faith, free run, or parkour, whatever - these are main symbols of AC series.
    No need for forgiving. And all of us make mistakes many times. Turn to topic.

    My thoughts are near as same as yours and hope we will see our priorities in the new AC Game.
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    -Would you be open to the possibility of an AC reboot? Why or why not?

    I'd be 100% on board. A reboot would be a good way to re-introduce beloved characters with updated gameplay mechanics.

    -AC Origins was meant to be a "soft" reboot, an easy entry point to new players. Do you feel it did a sufficient job introducing the AC universe to the uninitiated?

    Nope. Nor could it. All the events before Origins (like the war between Assassins and Templars, how Animus works, the importance of Isu artifacts) were established in previous games and no soft reboot could ever bring the new gamers up to speed. Or... I mean it could, but you'd have to treat all the players like it's their first acquaintance with the franchise, which Origins didn't do (and that's a good thing too).

    -If an AC reboot was suddenly announced, would you play it?

    Yes. I'd play it even if it sucked as I'm a fan of the franchise.

    -If you were tasked with rebooting the franchise, what would you change/remove?

    I'd do what one of the topics here suggested - more "batman", less "superman" gameplay. In videogames it is common that the hero is somehow special, superior to his enemies. That's how he (or she) can overcome dozens of enemies. I get that. But it's most rewarding when the protagonist's awesomeness stems from player's (and character's) skill and not from some divine blood / dragon blood / being the chosen one / etc. It's more satisfying to know you bested your opponent because you the player are awesome and not because your enemies are helpless kittens and you're a huge dog who can shoot lasers from your eyes. And sure, giving parkour to heroes is essential to the franchise. Okay, fine, awesome. But combat-wise, make the game make more sense. Origins did this pretty well. Bayek's abilities were down to earth and only slightly over the top. Enemies on the other hand were somewhat dumb.

    -If you were tasked with rebooting the franchise, what would you keep?

    Level progression, exploration, gear variety (but NOT the system where you can make any piece of gear look like any other piece of gear, or at least not the way it was in Odyssey - maybe visit a smith to have it reforged? Something less magical), historicity (and maybe even up it a bit? Peloponnesian War was nothing like it was described in Odyssey).

    -In your opinion, are there any rebooted franchises that AC should look to as an example of a good reboot?
    Xcom, Tomb Raider, Deus Ex (not exactly a reboot, but still), Risen 1 and 3 (a nice reboot (in a new IP, but still) of Gothic).
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    -Would you be open to the possibility of an AC reboot? Why or why not?

    Yes, please. Make it happen.


    -AC Origins was meant to be a "soft" reboot, an easy entry point to new players. Do you feel it did a sufficient job introducing the AC universe to the uninitiated?

    Origins didn't feel like a reboot, soft or otherwise to me. It felt more like a soft introduction to a fighting/warrior game, not an assassin one.


    -If an AC reboot was suddenly announced, would you play it?

    Yes.


    -In your opinion, are there any rebooted franchises that AC should look to as an example of a good reboot?

    Tomb Raider

    They successfully re-vamped the original without changing anything.
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    Hello, I am new to the franchise. I just beat Origins and am moving onto Odyssey and Valhalla. I think if you were to reboot this series I would keep Origin, Odyssey and Valhalla and reboot the origin stories to tie in the 3 games I mentioned with the mechanics and RPG elements of the new series. Origins was great because it left me curious about the animus and the past with it. If you were to reboot the originals with the same characters but have the stories tie into the 3 games mentioned I think you could effectively get away with rebooting the series without retconning everything.

    Kind of how Star Wars do with the movies, the smack a movie 10 to 15 years apart from each other and then fill in the details in between. You could effectively do that with the 3 recent games starting with Origins all the while rebooting the stories of the original characters and tieing then into the current 3.

    This would make new players (the massive amount) you brought in with Valhalla who went back to Origins and Odyssey and make older fan base happy who miss the original characters which would mean everything before Origins is retconned but you could effectively bring back old characters with new stories tying into the 3 new games.

    That would be an effective reboot without completely starting fresh.
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