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[Knight_Raime]

bro, are we seriously having this argument right now? Cent gets 65 on his combo if he uses his unblockable which does not land cause it's unfeintable. Hulda can feint her unblockable that knocks people down and it does the same damage as Cent's. She has HA on heavies so she can mess up parries, even if they do only 25, the HA saves her from Centurion's pin
She drains way more stamina with her bashes that are way faster than Cent's

Cent's other option to do the cutscene is either wallsplat or oos throw, both imply you land a gb, and I mean what rank are we playing at that Cent can get oos gbs, no, just gbs in general. Hulda can do her bash that is fast and extremely dangerous cause it comes from neutral so you have to really watch out for it, she can also do a punch follow up after a light or heavy.

So yes, dear friend, I am complaining, cause the hero gets rewarded too much

instead of giving her a viable kit, they gave her ultra s2 centurion when oos

Centurion is much better at enabling his own ganks and enabling his team with his tools. Not to mention Centurion is more than capable of hitting well over 80 damage with his punishes.
Jorge has next to no pressure in terms of trying to force his own gank. He 100% needs to be enabled by someone else.

Both kits are dumpster fire but centurion's is better than Jorge's at this time.

[garr1999]

She is not fun on console basically especially in ganks and
she can hit two people with her finisher heavy and bashes are so easy
to get away with you can't even dodge em and I tried it S tier on console for sure at this point
PC most likely either D,C,or B tier to most players on the platform

[garr1999]

I know her finisher lights are undodgable I'm saying her
bashes are the most problematic on console and her heavies
which follow up to an 80 damage slam jam combo and it's worse
when there is four of em if you got on console and faced four centurien 2.0s
how would you feel then it's just depressing to the players on console who
didn't buy the DLC you understand where I'm coming from with this
7 days of being tortured by 4 man same dlc matchups on console
PC has it easy sure Parries are not exactly perfect on PC but still
compared to console PC is basically easy mode on training wheels
difficulty

[EvoX.]

- Centurion OOS throw
(without wall) = 80 or 120 w/Haymaker
(with wall) = 90 or 130 w/Haymaker
- Centurion OOS parry = 80 or 90 w/Haymaker

No such thing as with wall or without. Centurion's OOS throw or OOS parry punish is 90 damage regardless of anything, 130 with the feat.

[TOCKSYK]

Okay so, here's some facts:

- Lawbringer OOS throw (with or without wall) = 60 damage
- Lawbringer OOS parry= 55 damage

- Centurion OOS throw
(without wall) = 80 or 120 w/Haymaker
(with wall) = 90 or 130 w/Haymaker
- Centurion OOS parry = 80 or 90 w/Haymaker
- Centurion light, heavv parry near wall plus wall punish = 65 or 85 w/Haymaker

- Gladiator OOS throw (with or without wall) = 60 damage
- Gladiator OOS parry = 70 damage

- Raider OOS throw (with wall) = 90/95 damage
- Raider OOS throw (without wall) = 68 damage
- Raider OOS parry = 65 damage

- Nobushi OOS throw(with wall) = 92 damage (pre nerf).

Centurion easily matches Jormun's 80 damage punish without the Haymaker feat and far exceeds it with Haymaker. Raider exceeds Jor's 80 damage punish on a OOS throw near a wall. The other OOS punishes listed from various characters are all above the regular 50 damage from Jor's hamarr slam. Jor's punish damage is pretty high but let's not be shy about the fact that there are characters that already do as much if not more and pretty much all of them have a much easier time of getting to their punishes than Jormun, in both a 1v1 situation and team fights.

I like how you say Cent matches her with haymaker, but the heroes should be balanced around duels. god damn man, you really proved your point with that one. but i agree with the rest. the thing that is completely ******ed with Jormungandr is not the damage really, but how easy she gets that damage. other heroes gotta mind game and gb to get those. Jormungandr behind the keyboard: I good, I press button and I take half health from enemy. i am good at game

not to talk smack to all those who enjoy jorm, but he is a pain to deal with just because he is really scary in oos

(btw his parry punish instantly throws someone to the ground if the parry made the opponent oos)

[Vakris_One]

No such thing as with wall or without. Centurion's OOS throw or OOS parry punish is 90 damage regardless of anything, 130 with the feat.

I'm taking it from the comp subreddit resources since I don't main Cent. You've got the experience with him.

I like how you say Cent matches her with haymaker, but the heroes should be balanced around duels. god damn man, you really proved your point with that one.

He matches her without Haymaker though. With Haymaker he goes into the realm of 130 damage. It's not too much to ask to actually read what I wrote.

[Hormly]

Just played against 4 jorms... I loathe this new character

[Dane520123]

Learn to dodge he’s lackluster asf

[Dane520123]

She is not fun on console basically especially in ganks and
she can hit two people with her finisher heavy and bashes are so easy
to get away with you can't even dodge em and I tried it S tier on console for sure at this point
PC most likely either D,C,or B tier to most players on the platform

The bashes are so easy to dodge * you mean ? And can be punished with a gb. If you’re having trouble dodging that slow punch or grab it’s youa problem. S tier on console? Not even close. He’s worse than centurion imo just seems like a Learn to play issue witb you bro

[Goat_of_Vermund]

Do you remember how half the community thought that black prior and hitokiri are weak on release?

Me neither.