Shinobi Nerf... My thoughts as a Shinobi main | Forums

[Valoredramack]

This will help the Shinobi. There won't be anymore spam which will allow Shinobi mains to get good at him instead of eating attacks. He doesn't need HA asthe whole point is to not get hit. They even gave him double dodge. And you can't just assume someone hasn't played a character just because their opinion goes against yours about your favorite hero.

Shinobi I thought use to be cool but he can't deal any damage that was worth trading. Having no HA will sharpen your skills in time and you'll be doing better than before.

People that were main Shinobi like myself were already not relying on Hyper Armor and trading blows to begin with, so your point about skill is completely irrelevant.

I made a hypothesis about how the Nerfed-Shinobi playstyle will evolve and contrary to your belief, I am entitled to make such an estimation. You have your opinion and I have my own; it is futile to tell people what they can or cannot do.

[GoldBrady]

Well you sure are entitled. People can do what ever they want, I agree. But to say they don't rely on HA when the whole thread is about Shinobi's HA is very confusing.

[Chump94]

So currently shinobi has the 3rd lowest win rate and 4th lowest pick rate in dominion and you believe that him getting nerfed will increase these stats? I wholeheartedly agree with Valoredramack this nerf just gives shinobis more reason to run away from fights. This nerf will annoy EVERYONE.

[GoldBrady]

I'm only saying that me fighting Shinobis will be easier and those who play him will learn quickly. Remember the Shugoki rework?

[GoldBrady]

I agree 100%.

[Buffshinobi]

I completely agree with you I think that shinobi is a very weak character already he has almost no health so your basically playing cat and mouse the fact that ubi nerfed shinobi to the point where you can’t back flip away is unbelievable because there’s no way shinobi can go face to face with any other character.

[IAlphaGamerI]

This won't help the Shinobi, I've played him multiple times now since the patch, only one game went well, due to the players I was matched against was clearly placed in the wrong skill category.. You're talking about him trading damage but if he trades a heavy for a heavy that's already half his health gone? And yes, they gave him double dodge hooray.. an ability which is useless if the opposing hero spams guard break as it tracks you all the way around the earth, even if you're halfway into your kick.

With no openers against decent players, the only thing you can do is light attack, which most of the time now I get parried, which means I eat a big top heavy to the face resulting in a sudden "Oh, one more hit and I'm just dead". Back flipping as well is actually completely useless now. I honestly can't see any point of doing it. You'll go back as far as you back dodge, with attacks you're backflipping away from still managing to track you.

[dank_biscuit]

Shinobi main here too. When I backflip I move nowhere and basically just do an emote and get hit lol like it's useless wtf. Unplayable now.

[ballon009]

You all are dead wrong. Shinobi nerf is actually good thing and I will explain why. It is easy to yell “ooh no what have ya done... “. But in fact if ya apply some critical thinking ya would realize your wrong.

Shinobi is designed as a assassin who’s kit is designed completely around deflect. Unlike PK who is bleeds, orochi (Bounce spams), shaman (biting), Gladiator (support), and Nuxia is feinting.

- and there is an issue when no one uses his kit. As everyone would spam kick, and just lGB spam. It is why ubi changed it to force ppl to use his kit.


(1) by removing the distance of his back flip it becomes possible to bait an enemy to heavy you after a flip, and dodge into it for a bleed +GB. This allows for instant sickle rain combo. Which was impossible before since no one would swing for you as you would be to far away.

—> it is why shinobi unlike other assassins has a guaranteed bleed.


(2)- Likewise due to shortening of CGb and zone blocks changes it is now making it possible to actually deal with gankers.

[AC35S4S51N]

You all are dead wrong. Shinobi nerf is actually good thing and I will explain why. It is easy to yell “ooh no what have ya done... “. But in fact if ya apply some critical thinking ya would realize your wrong.

Shinobi is designed as a assassin who’s kit is designed completely around deflect. Unlike PK who is bleeds, orochi (Bounce spams), shaman (biting), Gladiator (support), and Nuxia is feinting.

- and there is an issue when no one uses his kit. As everyone would spam kick, and just lGB spam. It is why ubi changed it to force ppl to use his kit.


(1) by removing the distance of his back flip it becomes possible to bait an enemy to heavy you after a flip, and dodge into it for a bleed +GB. This allows for instant sickle rain combo. Which was impossible before since no one would swing for you as you would be to far away.

—> it is why shinobi unlike other assassins has a guaranteed bleed.


(2)- Likewise due to shortening of CGb and zone blocks changes it is now making it possible to actually deal with gankers.

Oh so the only way a shinobi should be able to attack is too deflect (how stupid have we been). We should listen to you and let them remove everything except deflect. Thats an idiotic statement sorry. You can’t expect all players to deflect 400ms attacks. Besides that it’s dumb to remove the range and not mentioning it in the patch notes and then act like its a buff, gtfo here man. Backflip was already garbage against some classes now its complete garbage as it will probably be Even more guaranteed light attacks.