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    Originally Posted by retro1236 Go to original post
    Yes, but the exotic holster takes care of that. Pretty much instant reload.
    And with the new exotics I heard they're bringing out (a mask and gloves I think? I'm probably wrong on that), people will have to choose which exotic armor they will use. Some may still take the holster, but not everyone will... if they design the other pieces right. Also, I really need to get off my butt and get that holster... I keep putting it off though.
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    Originally Posted by DarkKnight27us Go to original post
    And with the new exotics I heard they're bringing out (a mask and gloves I think? I'm probably wrong on that), people will have to choose which exotic armor they will use. Some may still take the holster, but not everyone will... if they design the other pieces right. Also, I really need to get off my butt and get that holster... I keep putting it off though.
    Dammit.. the Holster. I knew I'd forgotten something. Stupid bar ... never there ... feels bad. Think I'll quit
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    It is fun hunting down the named bosses in cowboy hats!
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    Originally Posted by RichardOshea Go to original post
    Dammit.. the Holster. I knew I'd forgotten something. Stupid bar ... never there ... feels bad. Think I'll quit
    I'm a regular at that bar, the drinks are on me.
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    Originally Posted by CasualPlayah Go to original post
    not sure how this "outlier" was a "mistake" considering the Fact the higher DMG the lower the RPM goes down
    PM4 20k DMG 850 RPM
    P416 25k DMG 750 RPM
    AKM 29k DMG 600 RPM
    Exactly, it fits the current mould of dmg vs rpm there is no problem here it just the 'sweet spot' in dmg vs rpm which is why many choose to use it absolutely no need to nerf this weapon?
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    Buff the other AR's, not nerf the only good one. Nerf Bezerk, nerf Unstoppable, nerf Hard Hitting, nerf critical, etc......I'm so done with these devs. QUIT NERFING EVERYTHING THAT DOES DAMAGE!!!
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    Originally Posted by SGTR0CK117 Go to original post
    Exactly, it fits the current mould of dmg vs rpm there is no problem here it just the 'sweet spot' in dmg vs rpm which is why many choose to use it absolutely no need to nerf this weapon?
    No... it's definitely an outlier. Just do the simple math... multiply the damage by the RPM, here, I'll do it for you.

    PM4 (20K DMG * 850RPM) = 17,000,000
    AKM (29K DMG * 600RPM) = 17,400,000
    P416 (25K DMG * 750RPM) = 18,750,000

    The P416 does over 1 million damage per minute more than the other two guns listed in the example. So yeah, when you're just looking at the numbers, it doesn't seem like an outlier, but when you actually just do some math, it's very much an outlier. So either reducing it's damage or it's RPM would help to bring it back into line with the other ARs. My guess is, since it's not too far out of line, that if they reduce damage it won't be by much, maybe the drop the DMG down to 23K or the RPM down to 700RPM or something. It would still be one of the better ARs with out being the no brainer AR to use.
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    I've never come across any assault rifle with more than 19.5K damage and the best damage I've had on a weapon is 35.4 on my M60 E.
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    Originally Posted by Thumper-NB2019 Go to original post
    I've never come across any assault rifle with more than 19.5K damage and the best damage I've had on a weapon is 35.4 on my M60 E.
    Damage is based on gear you have. My current P416 does something like 22K or 23K damage per shot but I'm geared up for AR damage. I have a 2nd character that is geared for LMG damage and my M60 is right around 30K damage.
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    Originally Posted by DarkKnight27us Go to original post
    No... it's definitely an outlier. Just do the simple math... multiply the damage by the RPM, here, I'll do it for you.

    PM4 (20K DMG * 850RPM) = 17,000,000
    AKM (29K DMG * 600RPM) = 17,400,000
    P416 (25K DMG * 750RPM) = 18,750,000
    ok so math, well they could always just buff the 2 G36's and even the Aug to fill in the gap, right?
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