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  1. #61
    It will depend on not what will be included but on how it will be included.

    It's like Old World and New World. Europe and America. Countries consist of one main nation like in Europe and multinational country like America. Did all that mixture of different nations make America worse? No. Only better. Mixture doesn't mean bad or worse. How it will be mixed - most important.
    In America all nations were mixed in one boiling pot and now they are all americans. No matter what nation you are, no matter what country you were from - you are american. This is right mixture.
    In Europe today, also, many people of different nations and cultures. But newcomers are living in enclaves. They try to live separately and not to be mixed with others. This is wrong mixture.

    Far Cry shouldn't have enclaves of different genres!
    They should be all mixed, almost insensibly, in one big boiling pot called Open World Game.

    Just look at this chart....
    The whole half could be Far Cry ally also.



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    Far cry is already a blend of multiple genres that it executes pretty well. I personally don't believe there would be much benefit in adding other genres into the mix that have a higher likelihood of detrimental impact on design.
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    Sims 3 was the most best selling game of all times.
    Developers, draw your own cocnlusions!
    What can be taken from there and digest for Far Cry universe. (without spoiling the game)
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    Originally Posted by GameGuru2018 Go to original post
    Sims 3 was the most best selling game of all times.
    Developers, draw your own cocnlusions!
    What can be taken from there and digest for Far Cry universe. (without spoiling the game)
    Your comparisons don't really back up how Far Cry can work with a so called "multi genre pie". Many individual games are very different and developed for completely different styles of gameplay, many of which aren't meant for Far Cry. Its fine to take inspirations from other genres to let Far Cry build upon it to make it something new and fitting, but if something random and out of place like Sims style gameplay or other complex mechanics that another game already used, you would essentially be copying.

    Also the best selling game of all time was actually Tetris.
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    Originally Posted by Unsaneboi Go to original post
    Your comparisons don't really back up how Far Cry can work with a so called "multi genre pie". Many individual games are very different and developed for completely different styles of gameplay, many of which aren't meant for Far Cry. Its fine to take inspirations from other genres to let Far Cry build upon it to make it something new and fitting, but if something random and out of place like Sims style gameplay or other complex mechanics that another game already used, you would essentially be copying.

    Also the best selling game of all time was actually Tetris
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    Yeah, that sims stat is actually super outdated and there are multiple games that've since outsold it, according to this wikipedia entry minecraft has actually even eclipsed tetris' record. I agree though, trying to integrate systems from other games simply because they sold well is a very strange way to think about how to design a game. I said it before and I think it makes sense that trying to do too much, like pull ideas from 20 different genres, I don't think would result in a good, let alone coherent game. I think that would result in a game without focus, vision or meaningful gameplay.

    I think a big part of the reason DOOM 2016 was so well received, is because it was a game of very defined focus. Now I'm not saying FC should try to replicate DOOM, but I'm just saying I think going in the opposite direction and trying to pull from all sorts of other genres would have an overall negative impact on the game. If they try to do so much, it spreads everything too thin and all of it suffers for it. I think games thrive when they find the core of what they want to achieve and focus on that, rather than get to caught up in trying to add elements from genres, that's my perspective on it anyhow...
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    Every game has a part of tetris!

    Wiki - is not trustworthy! I've seen it hundred times.

    No matter what game exactly. Far Cry should include all of them, all genres, and digest.
    But without enclaves, like racing, "Clutch Nixon" masochism and so on.
    They should be naturally integrated in Open World.

    Everyone playing far Cry should find something for himself.

    Far Cry should be Game For All.

    Not only gender, age, social classes.....but for all gamers!
    Today they are sitting in their stuffy rooms of RPG, strategy, simulations...but when Far Cry comes they should get out of their rooms and gather together in one big carnival, Fiesta - called Far Cry.
    They will dance and sing, laugh and go mad, feeling themselves rather naturally.
    And when Fiesta is over then again return to their rooms.

    Big delicious pie....flamboyant Carnival...Far Cry


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    I'm just confused now.
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  8. #68
    Originally Posted by KrayZee_ Go to original post
    I'm just confused now.
    Makes two of us. He never makes any sense and is at this point just spouting nonsense and making up ridiculous hyperboles. At least we Far Cry veterans like you and me can actually give GOOD ideas on how the series can improve.
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    Originally Posted by Unsaneboi Go to original post
    Makes two of us. He never makes any sense and is at this point just spouting nonsense and making up ridiculous hyperboles. At least we Far Cry veterans like you and me can actually give GOOD ideas on how the series can improve.
    Wait so you're suggesting Far Cry shouldn't get it's ideas from point & click, turn based or pinball games? Whhaaaat?!? lol
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  10. #70
    Everything that will make Far Cry more interesting should be taken from all genres!
    If needed point&click also!

    Far Cry must be a game for everyone!
    It should be profitable as Hell.

    In this predatory capitalistic world where profit rules game can't be unprofitable!
    Always keep it in mind, developers.

    Everyone should find something for himself.

    Females? Si'l vous plait......You want more cosmetic for customization, manicure and pedicure? Please.....We have much.
    You want to look like Barbie or Kardashian.....No problem. ( but locals, other people have to react to it somehow in the game).

    And don't forget about males also! Otherwise, there will be a bias in one direction. And it will push away males.
    You want to look britally? Of course...you can.
    You want to look like Rambo or Ninja, or special sniper camouflage? Scars, tattoos... We have everything! Come in!

    You like racing? You are welcome! We have much.....cars, helicopters, sea scooters...Race in the mountains and fields, sea and sky!
    You like fightings? Fist fight? Knife, machete? O.K!
    You like building? Very good. Build as much as you can! Strongholds, trenches, pillboxes....
    Crafting? We have sea of crafting.

    So on and so on.....

    You can find everything you like. Far Cry is one big guerilla warfare. Where everyone will have a place.
    No matter who you are - man or woman, old or young, stupid or smart, strategy or puzzle fan....you will find something for yourself in Far Cry!
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