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[Alexpsilos07]

PVP is not sustaining this game. The PVP is meh. poor tick rate, poorly thought out pvp.

The pve is decent. I still play some but lots of people have move on. Gunner was interesting for a bit but not that interesting.

I have watched lots of people struggle mightily with the raid. People need to be carried and probably only the top 20 percent or less have a chance to do it. That is terrible game design and a waste to put that content up where so few can do it. I have done it once. Took a long time. 2nd time was over 5 hours and we got to the last part and had to quit.

The game feels dead anyway. when you walk around the city you see no other players except in the base and tons of unchallenging npc's. Clearing DC is not desired as you probably want lvl 4 and 3 control points. What you do now is flipped over in 10 minutes or 5 days.

The garbage gear is annoying too. Why bother to make gear with such lousy numbers that nobody would ever use? Where is the reward again? People play to be rewarded and have fun and progress. The endless grinding of lousy gear is not fun and then you find out that if your clan was lvl 15 you could buy god roll gear. That is utter bs.

☝️ this!

I will not talk for pvp as it is really bad in it's current state .
I agree pve is decent but also have big flaws.
Locking an OP gun behind a raid that needs active players to complete it is just a really bad idea.
I defended this game in the beginning thinking that something will be done but it was just poor judgement on myself.
Loot system is also not rewarding at all.
Everyone can see that a lot of the players have left the game by the time matchmaking takes in all game activities.
Also seen a lot of people saying that the 2 3rds of their clan members are never online anymore.

[retro1236]

The game feels dead anyway. when you walk around the city you see no other players except in the base and tons of unchallenging npc's.

Oh well, that's by design, you only see other players in safe houses and base. How can you even have missed that after playing the game for a couple of hours is beyond me? Then basing your assumption that game is dead on that?? LOL Well played Agent!

[DogBiscuit4U]

Oh well played for nearly 400 hours and still enjoying it, upgraded/ recalibrated my main stuff two times only yesterday.

If I keep selling my gear I can upgrade my equipment it infinitely, then there's no problem with loot, how wonderful anecdotal evidence is.

[SGTR0CK117]

The other issue with the crfting bench is the upgrades (downgrade) to exotic blueprints. I dont believe any exotic weapon I have upgraded at bench has actually been an upgrade it always seems to give less dmg than prior to rolling to GS 500 so far has happend to both merciless, Nemesis, 2 Liberty pistols and sweet dreams. The is the HW GS crafting, HW GS items when crafted should drop between 480 and 500 GS , more often than not it drops at about 484 which is next to useless. For the amount of effort required in collecting HW tech and components for this it should be dropping no less than 490 GS with some decent attributes so far I crafted and trashed almost a dozen pieces trying to improve my HW build and im lucky If i can get the 215K armour and 40K health out of it given these GS are very restrictive to what gear modes can be applied it is impossible to make up the difference in armour or offense attributes because you cannot put them on.

These need to be reworked to be usable.

[Leon108]

That anger is shown because of love for the game. Otherwise, people wouldn't care to express it

[SHDLBC]

Thing is, it’s all speculation unless you have the raw numbers sitting in front of you like Ubi/Massive have. It’s all anecdotal. People talk about MM issues, but I was able to matchmake just fine last night both with my GS 500 characters as well as a third character that I’m leveling up. There were also players outside the BoO and in every safe house I visited. I’m not saying that others don’t have a different experience, I’m sure they do, but it’s hard to draw solid conclusions just based on an experience during a slice of time spent in game, whether mine or someone else’s.

I’m not going to comment on the PvP stuff because I don’t engage it. I share some of the same issues that others have with loot: too many layers of RNG, can be tough to get upgrades, etc. That’s partly why I am leveling another character, I love that feeling of progression.

I dunno, my experience in the game will differ from others, obviously, but the daily “game is dying/dead” threads seem a little over dramatic, in my opinion.

[retro1236]

Matchmaking still happens in seconds for me, on every difficulty level I choose. And there's always a full group of three fellow agents there. Not sure what some are complaining about here.
Dying? really?

[scarp99anzz]

See here's the thing, regardless of the state of the loot system, recalibration, crafting, etc, etc, the missions, strongholds, etc are fun to play and more complex and lengthy than TD1 and I like to play them. As I said in my post, there must be a severe lack of playership in this game, because MM is just not finding players. Any way you look at it, to me that means people are not logging on, or there is one heck of a lot of solo players buying this game.

I played 4 heroic missions/strongholds tonight on PS4 all MM and the longest I waited was maybe a minute. tidal, district and Washington were pretty much instant, Jefferson took the minute.

[F.i.x.e.r]

Thing is, it’s all speculation unless you have the raw numbers sitting in front of you like Ubi/Massive have. It’s all anecdotal. People talk about MM issues, but I was able to matchmake just fine last night both with my GS 500 characters as well as a third character that I’m leveling up. There were also players outside the BoO and in every safe house I visited. I’m not saying that others don’t have a different experience, I’m sure they do, but it’s hard to draw solid conclusions just based on an experience during a slice of time spent in game, whether mine or someone else’s.

I’m not going to comment on the PvP stuff because I don’t engage it. I share some of the same issues that others have with loot: too many layers of RNG, can be tough to get upgrades, etc. That’s partly why I am leveling another character, I love that feeling of progression.

I dunno, my experience in the game will differ from others, obviously, but the daily “game is dying/dead” threads seem a little over dramatic, in my opinion.

As far as your remarks regarding availability of players when matchmaking I would normally tend to agree with you, but as far as my experience with this game I have to disagree. I left this game around two months ago due to constant wait times when MM or ending up in a two man (inc myself) squad and now three days in a row the same thing. Guess my complaint is a bit different, although I think the loot, crafting, recal amongst other things needs a lot of work (IMO), I still like the game and think the missions and strongholds are better than TD1, but I certainly not having the same luck as you or indeed the success I myself have when MM in both TD1, a three year old predecessor and Destiny 2.

[DavidSOONobiwan]

Hmm..

When i join to game. Create mission, stronghold or DZ activity...Few sec later i have full party 4 people...I never thought I'd wait long or i join to another party when i looking for mission activity or strongholds. . Strongholds, Mission 4cap points.. Every run 4 people after few sec create game. I love these speech "game is DEAD bla bla bla bla". Still same ..When i looking to our Division 2 discord in our land..Full.....you can join to raid with people or any others activity, no problems. In World hundreds people wrote JOIN RAID, LFg raid or another activity. Ubi Discord same. This game have many problems, PVP, secret patchs, glitches absoluty idiots nerfs, or stupid fancy stuff.. But ****s speech "the game is Dead" are totally ******** as TD2 problems.