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  1. #1

    Orochi too strong.

    Light spamming their way out of any fight. It's hard to see the game class this hero as a "hard" champion, when it's the most noob friendly.

    PS: Obviously I'm talking in Console.
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  2. #2
    pick a character with hyper armor and your orochi problems are solved. honest
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  3. #3
    When I say she is strong, I mean that she can win lots of 1v1 by just spamming her lights. And youtube videos doesn't change that fact. Orochi Needs a light attack speed reduction exclusively for console, or altoghether, and give her something else to keep her strength but being less frustrating.
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  4. #4
    Originally Posted by atac56 Go to original post
    pick a character with hyper armor and your orochi problems are solved. honest
    That's not how you solve a problem, my dude. She is not fair in console and need to be addressed. Reducing her light attack speed and giving her something in return should do the job.
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  5. #5
    Originally Posted by AmonDarkGod Go to original post
    Lol a nerf only for consoles. That will never happen. Plus there are parry gods on consoles too you just need to practice and get better. Orochi does need a rework all she has is lights rn. Youtube vids doesnt change that fact but they can teach u how to learn parrying spammers...
    It's not about being good. I get trashed by all the other heroes, yet I know when it's because of skill or because of unfairness.
    Reacting to an orochi in console is more than frustrating, which takes the fun of the game away. If she can't get an exclusive nerf, then reducing her LA and giving her something in return would be fair and enough.
    (Or a rework for that matter).
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  6. #6
    Originally Posted by alfair Go to original post
    That's not how you solve a problem, my dude. She is not fair in console and need to be addressed. Reducing her light attack speed and giving her something in return should do the job.
    given that the orochi may not have any changes to the character anytime soon, i'd say it is. the orochi has no gimmicks or unblockables to work with. since all he does is light spam why not pick a character that can trade blows?
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    Another reason to not play on console.
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  8. #8
    Nerfing orochis light attack speed would directly require also nerfing valk, nuxia, and shaolins light attack speed to maintain any semblance of balance. And further would also need to push a following shadow nerf on everyone that has other 500 ms lights as they are now the same speed.

    Speed tho frustrating is one of the elements that makes these 4 characters unique
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    Originally Posted by Vendelkin Go to original post
    Nerfing orochis light attack speed would directly require also nerfing valk, nuxia, and shaolins light attack speed to maintain any semblance of balance. And further would also need to push a following shadow nerf on everyone that has other 500 ms lights as they are now the same speed.

    Speed tho frustrating is one of the elements that makes these 4 characters unique
    But don't forget she has her special dodge. Let's not assume orochi can only LA the entire fight, she has her fantastic mobility, which makes her LA more frustrating than, say, nuxia or shaoling.

    I don't mean that she should get nerfed, i mean that she should get 'addressed'. A rework would do her good or just lowering the LA to gove a bit of reaction time. In return, more damage to her LA or faster HA..
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  10. #10
    Fellow console pleb here.
    Orochi is fine, he's even one of the weaker characters imo. You just have to know his moveset and get in your opponent's head (as with pretty much every character) and anticipate their next move.

    Getting light spammed is kind of on you unless latency is on their side.

    If we were to nerf her lights she wouldn't get any damage in at all...

    I'm not fond of 400ms lights either but she hasn't got a lot of things to get a chain going.

    Every assassin has excellent mobility it's their characteristic, but that dodge attack can be easily baited. If they're doing it from neutral it's a free light parry.
    And if you're talking about the 'undodgeable trait' well some characters do have that as well: BP and Warlord immediately come to mind.

    All in all I think you just have to train against her a bit and then everything will be fine.

    However I do agree that on console Orochi can be a noob friendly class, but once they hit higher level gameplay reality will hit them hard and they'll actually have to improve themselves.

    Edit: Imo Raider is way more of a noob friendly class right now
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