This is a 3-Part video post about cheaters i have encountered today in Dark Zone South. But really, this is my middle-fingers sticking at the devs faces for being so BELLIGERENT toward nice players like me to become sour and mean -_-
You asked for the cheaters, so here are footages of the cheaters. I dont even give a two cents about revealing or concealing IDs and what not. I just dont care about anything at this stage, since the devs wont give two cents either -_-Originally Posted by UbiGabrinth Go to original post
https://youtu.be/-Z1AKdHoIOM / https://youtu.be/00mqy9nCQjI / https://youtu.be/67dFUJy63eU
This is a raw footage, so altogether they can be pretty long and draggy to watch. So in Quick Summary, this is a proof that some kind of weapon DMG exploit exists, meaning toggling the Normalized Stats on these guys weapons dont really matter, and the weapon DMGs are pretty high. Man, im having trouble explaining things right at first try, but basically these guys have unusually high weapon DMGs since their weapons dont get affected by the Normalization.
Also, most of the Part 3 is Occupied (Normalization OFF), so there's no need to watch the whole thing, but the general impression stays the same--nobody wants to play in Dark Zone with this kind of atmosphere--at least not me -_-
Honestly, im not even mad at these cheaters. It's more enraging to report this kind of footages to the devs, who seem to be on their own delusions, like "there's no such thing as cheating in The Division 2. Especially for PC, cuz we put the Easy Anti-Cheat mechanism" or "Yes, sometimes we get angry rants and rambling comments thrown at us, usually they are intoxicated or pretty high on some stuffs. Lot of the times, they just suck really bad at this game. Sadly, it's just part of our job, and we just have to get through from our end". And the way they ALWAYS ASK for video proof, what's up with that? You might think its a piece of cake or pie or whatever, but i spend 2-3 hours playing PvE, and i spent just as much amount of time uploading videos and proof-reading my post to get these words out right. Whether you agree or disagree, Ubisoft has a history of making games that promote cheaters or letting cheaters stay off the radar. I remember similar experience from Splinter Cell Blacklist. Think about it, do you realize how difficult it is to report such bad players in this game? We say it over and over, there's still no Recent Players list, and going through players profile via Nearby Players dont really last long, so after looking through their gears for a minute or two, the data becomes unavailable or disappear. And of course, while going through players profile, there's no "Report Player" option. It's like the devs are unable to grasp the idea of "cheating" in general, or they think some players are just crazy and enjoy wasting everybody's time with made-up stories about cheating and their bad days.
Why do you report such thing, buddy? If nobody cares in the end, why bother? Well, i will put my final words here. If you ever wonder why ppl dont play Dark Zones, or why SO FEW players are participating in the Dark Zones, and i know you do, here is the answer. It only takes a handful of cheaters to party up and gang up on everybody else in the Dark Zones.
Adding an 8-Part follow up of cheaters footage. More like a diary of Dark Zone experience, this is really for those who "want to play" in the Dark Zone, but for whatever reason prefer to "watch someone else play" in the Dark Zone.
https://youtu.be/FFACgma5NrI / https://youtu.be/SIguKjWl7u0 / https://youtu.be/Na8luWDtK1c
https://youtu.be/pb1kGp4e8NA / https://youtu.be/nrTDXWjyuqk / https://youtu.be/DX8SJPLKt28
https://youtu.be/QyxTL-HhuDY / https://youtu.be/4bZl_FnTUfc
Im so tired of reporting these cheaters, just so you know. I feel like those undercover detectives sitting in a car outside all day waiting for crooks to do something dumb. Believe it or not, its not too easy to catch these cheaters in action everyday, mix it with 15-min time limit for each video, its quite dreadful. Its pretty long to watch all 8 parts, but thankfully YouTube allows play speed 2.0x so take advantage of that. Have a nice day![]()
Hey stArTHeeF__212,
Thank you for the detailed breakdown and the videos it is greatly appreciated.
I can appreciate that we may sound like a broken record or mistrustful when we ask for video proof of certain issues. This is because once we have the video proof, it gives the dev team a better understanding of what they may need to do in order to fix the problem, but a lot of the time, just being able to see the issue that you are experiencing goes a very long way to helping them understand and start working on a fix.
We do appreciate that this can be bothersome, and for that we are sorry, but I can assure you, these videos do go a long way to helping resolve issues with the game.
Naming and Shaming players is not permitted on the forums, so we do ask that if you are wanting to report players for cheating, toxicity, etc, that you do so via a support ticket on our website.
I will pass your feedback along to the team along with your concerns.
Thank you.
Watch the rest of them before you comment, or you're only commenting on a SMALL part of the scenario.Originally Posted by Iabby Go to original post
this is the issue for me some one like lobby who does not even take the time and show you the respect of at least watching all your evidence then passign judgement is well just idiotic. ubisoft has a program called anti cheat that just takign 2 secoinds you will see just how many issues it is creatiugn for its player base not workign and crashign the game. Does not even work . thats the best part. they will allow a program that hinders our gameplay even tho there is so many reportsd . they would rather lose cutomers then stopping cheatwers. bad biz model and I trly hope that anyone not a sheep here will stop buyign games from ubi I have and I own just about every single game they put out with season passes. so please stop defendign a company that does not care about you in the least . and the responses and lack there of in these forums prove.
I mean have a lkook see for yoruself at just how many bugs and issues this game still jhas 4 months after roll out . they have opne static comment please send us you computer infop . thats it wether uyo post it here or go thru the stupid poroicess of submitting a ticket .
look I hve sent so many crash reportsd why do they need even more info . they cant fix the game sorry but this rollout being so bad and all they care about is rolling out the olatest ghost recon game if you took the time to watch the trailer for it there are even graphical errors in the example they giv eus to buy the gam e. at some piont you either face facts that ubisoft has become a money grab or you should just sign your paychecks over to them and be done. I myself after what i see just on these forums will never buy anythign from them again .sad cause what littel i have played in div 2 has been super fun.
First, thank the forum staff for the response. It really makes difference to us players
Just for getting my point across, there is a difference between "unfair" and "cheating". So, lets look at the grouping on lone players. That's considered "unfair" for me because the game primarily revolves aroun DMG per second, or simply over time, so there is simply not enough DPS for one player to win over a 3-member or 4-member parties, assuming all players have neck-to-neck video game skills. Too bad stArTHeeF, its not your lucky day. What keeps this scenario "unfair" is if i get into a group of other players similar in video game skills, to sort of "revenge" on other lone players. The question is, can i reproduce my unfair situation onto other players, if the conditions can be deliberately setup?
I feel like this might get to lengthy arguments, but my point is i call it "cheating" when some players find certain flaws in the game, use them at their own advantage, and continuously disrupt the balance of the game. I would like to say that my gameplay videos here were intentional, meaning i was mainly focused on grabbing attention to show how easily these cheaters kill me.
Also, don't get me wrong with the whole PvP thing, i've done lone battles couple times (one vs one), my first PvP win was when i was Rogue status, playing for Thieves Den, and i was fighting the patrol enemies when this guy started attacking me. It was crazy for me, but i ended up killing him and he dropped the Pestilence. Yep, it was a battle he started, and he paid the price -_-
One time i just picked up a SMG, run straight to random players, wait for them to get pinned down from Landmark and just go Rogue on them, just to see how quickly i can kill in PvP. Ok, im getting wordy again here, but the point is generally speaking, 1vs1 PvP situations should be fair enough so that the survivor is almost dead, having barely enough health at the end. And it doesn't necessarily have to be 50% chance of surviving all the time. I don't mind if i always end up dead on 1vs1 situations as long as i did enough damage. Oh boy, so for instance, if i lay down a whole clip of ARifle on a player and the other player lay down a whole clip of SMG on me, based of DPS mechanics, both of us should take equal or very similar amount of damage, right? Of course, the weapon mods, the distance between us, and other factors can affect the result, but generally, its not considered "cheating" to me if i switch my build with the other player and reproduce very similar results.
So the way these "cheaters" play in the Dark Zones, you can tell something's off about them because this same guy keeps slaughtering all other players in a breeze really. Even if he did a really good job on getting his build for Dark Zones, there's got to be some balance for it, dont you think? I mean, all the talents and attributes have requirements and whatnot, but this guy is ALWAYS slaughtering all the players, all the Elite enemies, even turrets with shock rounds. You see, i don't care how much his build gives boosts to the weapon damage, once you get shot from SHD turret, you are pretty certain to face quick death. Come on man, there's no way to build your gears to have 50% increased weapon damage, 100% bonus armor, 100% hazard protection, and a bunch of gear talents to fill up your ammo and blue armors.
Yea, im already being wordy and dragging here. Im not sure how best to explain about this issue. When i go down, you hear their mic laughing like devils or on cracks and whatnot. Sometimes a group of players "boost" each other to reach Manhunt, camp around extraction zones and hijack the loots. You may think it's just their play style, and believe me i've seen TWO groups of players going Rogue and fight each other, and i dont see them as cheating. But, when you see a 4-member group of SHD players run past you, only to see their IDs show up killed by that SAME CHEATER who's been hijacking loots, sneak up behind you and get you down in a fraction of a second, run into the Landmarks only when there's engagement, looking for human-controlled players, you just cant say its fair or unfair, its just CHEATING -_-