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    Hello all...

    First off...everyone that has already posted about 3.04 being a flop and 3.04 not promising the added aircraft that are supposedly coming...shut the **** up. I want a Betty. I want a Ki-100. I want a TBF or a Kate bomber. I want all those airplanes that cruise along at 150 miles an hour and go down with a few well placed MG or cannon rounds. Come on people. Here is a little scenario:

    We get the Betty. It is modeled correctly...like 99.9% of the aircraft in IL-2 right now. So we get the Betty and all these little bomber peons wring their hands in anitcipation and think...whoa baby apocalypse now...I've got my Betty! Only...when they get online and actually pit their Betty against anything with more than a peashooter for ordanance...they find it will catch fire way to easily, it will not be fast enough, the pieces do not stay glued on well enough. But oh the glory of being able to pilot a Betty to well...the bottom of Iron Bottom Sound. So then...after doing this who knows how many times...they will come back to their good old IL-2 Pacific Fighters forum and post things like "Oleg...Betty Flames to Easily" or "Oleg...Betty FM/DM are in Need of Repair!!"

    Ok...so now that they have exhausted their patience with an airplane that is basically paper mache...they move on to bigger and better things that were released in an ADD-ON pack...such as a Ki-100 or some late war plane that had minimal or no effect on the war. They get this baby out and...again wring their hands in anticipation...and go out to do some killin'! Oh look...a squadron of Betties! A couple of 30mm cannon passes and all the Betties go smoking into the sea. This ripple effect:

    A)makes more Betty drivers come to the IL-2 forum to complain about Betties being...well...matchsticks
    B)makes those same Betty pilots complain about the Ki-100 being too powerful (Oleg It's too Powerful).

    The same scenario goes for all of you whiners asking for Kates and Avengers. They will be slow and plod along at their gracious 150 miles per hour and you will all whine that they don't perform correctly or they catch fire to easily and you will come back here whining for an FM tweak in the upcoming patch...along with 50 new aircraft you think should be incorporated.

    Wanna solve these problems? Grab a Hellcat.

    You see...no matter what you all will end up getting...you are all of the mindset that it just is not good enough. Personally...what more could we ask for from a sim? We have moved from the Russian front to the Pacific and now have a ton of aircraft to fly. Ones that do and don't go up in smoke...ones that actually made a difference...ones that actually had some charecter and some grit to them.

    Bottom line...if I were Oleg...I would not respond to so many of your posts either. He so much as says there is no plan in the works for a flyable Kate or a flyable Betty (at the current moment) there are some of you out there that just jump down his throat. So just chill out! Chill out all of you. The stuff will be made for us to download when it is ready for us to download! Give the guy a break...he knows what we want and if he wants any more of our money...he will cater to us in some way shape or form...so you should all just take a huge chill pill. I mean...shoot...this customer support we have already received has been great. We have gotten 4 patches for this game alone so far...and we are still on 3.04. I think when we were running FB...we got up to 1.22? We've got some time. Do not kick all this to the curb yet. There is still a lot of good stuff to come.

    We'll see what kind of spark this ignites...

    Adios.
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    Hello all...

    First off...everyone that has already posted about 3.04 being a flop and 3.04 not promising the added aircraft that are supposedly coming...shut the **** up. I want a Betty. I want a Ki-100. I want a TBF or a Kate bomber. I want all those airplanes that cruise along at 150 miles an hour and go down with a few well placed MG or cannon rounds. Come on people. Here is a little scenario:

    We get the Betty. It is modeled correctly...like 99.9% of the aircraft in IL-2 right now. So we get the Betty and all these little bomber peons wring their hands in anitcipation and think...whoa baby apocalypse now...I've got my Betty! Only...when they get online and actually pit their Betty against anything with more than a peashooter for ordanance...they find it will catch fire way to easily, it will not be fast enough, the pieces do not stay glued on well enough. But oh the glory of being able to pilot a Betty to well...the bottom of Iron Bottom Sound. So then...after doing this who knows how many times...they will come back to their good old IL-2 Pacific Fighters forum and post things like "Oleg...Betty Flames to Easily" or "Oleg...Betty FM/DM are in Need of Repair!!"

    Ok...so now that they have exhausted their patience with an airplane that is basically paper mache...they move on to bigger and better things that were released in an ADD-ON pack...such as a Ki-100 or some late war plane that had minimal or no effect on the war. They get this baby out and...again wring their hands in anticipation...and go out to do some killin'! Oh look...a squadron of Betties! A couple of 30mm cannon passes and all the Betties go smoking into the sea. This ripple effect:

    A)makes more Betty drivers come to the IL-2 forum to complain about Betties being...well...matchsticks
    B)makes those same Betty pilots complain about the Ki-100 being too powerful (Oleg It's too Powerful).

    The same scenario goes for all of you whiners asking for Kates and Avengers. They will be slow and plod along at their gracious 150 miles per hour and you will all whine that they don't perform correctly or they catch fire to easily and you will come back here whining for an FM tweak in the upcoming patch...along with 50 new aircraft you think should be incorporated.

    Wanna solve these problems? Grab a Hellcat.

    You see...no matter what you all will end up getting...you are all of the mindset that it just is not good enough. Personally...what more could we ask for from a sim? We have moved from the Russian front to the Pacific and now have a ton of aircraft to fly. Ones that do and don't go up in smoke...ones that actually made a difference...ones that actually had some charecter and some grit to them.

    Bottom line...if I were Oleg...I would not respond to so many of your posts either. He so much as says there is no plan in the works for a flyable Kate or a flyable Betty (at the current moment) there are some of you out there that just jump down his throat. So just chill out! Chill out all of you. The stuff will be made for us to download when it is ready for us to download! Give the guy a break...he knows what we want and if he wants any more of our money...he will cater to us in some way shape or form...so you should all just take a huge chill pill. I mean...shoot...this customer support we have already received has been great. We have gotten 4 patches for this game alone so far...and we are still on 3.04. I think when we were running FB...we got up to 1.22? We've got some time. Do not kick all this to the curb yet. There is still a lot of good stuff to come.

    We'll see what kind of spark this ignites...

    Adios.
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    VW-IceFire's Avatar Senior Member
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    Yeah whats this deal about the Betty. I think people just like being upset about something. Its coming, eventually.

    The only problem I have right now is that these patches show up but we never really know whats in them or what the master plan is. I'd love to have a little more of an inside track...something, anything...I was, I admit, disappointed and confused with 3.04. It was "just a patch" and thats fine with me now, but I was surprised to see it in the first place (3.03 was fine) and I was confused because I figured (probably like many others) that this number would be the big one (but way too early in my books, I'm not expecting the addon materials for another month or two).

    Anyways, carry on...I'll wait it out, no problem.
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  4. #4
    wetterholt,

    You sound like a peanut. You grab your hellcat and come for me in a betty and I will bet anything you like that I put you in Davy Jones locker more times than you put me in Iron bottom sound.
    People want the Betty because it should be in the game, they don't care that it burned well, they just want it anyway.

    Do you see people here complaining about the 111 or Stuka because Spitfires just pound them into the dirt? No, because that is what they expect to have happen.
    Lame, weak and generally poor flyers will avoid the betty because it will be too hard to win a dogfight against Yank fighters...well Duh! People that fly the Betty the way it was intended and utilising it's strengths and not it's weaknesses will sink allied ships and fly home to drink sake. So please, discourage people in flying it, it will just make those people that master it more elite and better pilots than the people that find it all too hard.
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    this is just a copy of my post postet another place...should explain how is se the stuff acording to the betty

    posted Tue January 18 2005 14:48
    Hmmm ok......some might jump in a new plane and then leave it just as fast as they got it. But some like me have flown the HE-111 (Japanese)since PF came out. It is proberbly 100 times better than the G4M, takes alot more damedge etc, but it just doent feel right. I can live with it some time more, it is just not funny to know that a Japanese bomber is done and is collecting dust while some more fancy planes are being tuned.

    I doent care about KI-100`s or the N1K2 i just want a higly flameble Japanese bomber to die in. No one have to make it, its done......and im waiting. But The 3.04 have helped me out with some graph probs, and that will make the arival of the "lighter" so mucth better.....so i keep fly my "lend and lease" HE-111 and i know that in two weeks it will be here lol....

    Small bugs killed will make addon even better
    OM take your time...im patient....patient.....patient.....(but also i tiny bit unpatient)
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    RWetterholt you seem to forget who works for whom.

    When we fork over the coin we purchase the right to gripe.

    Now on the day they pay us to fly.....
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  7. #7
    The Yanks got a level bomber, why can't the folks that fly Japanese? You didn't have to compensate by using a TB3, why do we have to make do with He111s?





    Sigh......... I remember when I used Pe8s to simulate B-17s and the closest thing I had to a Pony (in appearance anyway) was a Yak... and I am still here... and now I have almost everything I wanted back then.......

    Get over it and enjoy yourselves all you complainers...
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    WTE_Dukayn, have ya seen the IL2T painted up like the IJA "Kate" yet? Pretty good look-a-like, to bad it doesn't have an arrester setup . The Japanese should get a level bomber (good,bad or flaming torch).
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    I just want more planes just for the sake of variety. I can however, live quite comfortably wit what I've got, and be happy with whatever I get. I must agree with the original poster however, his predictions will undoubtedly be true, the precedent for them has already been set thousand times here. Just for the record, I want new planes, but you will not see me on here griping because my favorite doesn't happen to be the super plane that I thought it was. All I want is that they be as close to real as possible. And close is good enough for my uses.

    I will never be a whiner for or against any aircraft...for the record.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RWetterholt:
    Only...when they get online <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


    Here's your spark: there's much, much more to this sim than online furballs. Ever think of that? No, I thought not.
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