🛈 Announcement
Greetings! The Division forums are now archived and accessible in read-only mode, please go to the new platform to discuss the game
  1. #1
    Edgemoor's Avatar Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Posts
    1,686

    Black Tusk AI issues?

    Just done the invasion on 2 toons and I've noticed some weird behavour. The most obvious is the drone NPC's they seem to now not care where or when they release their drones. Usually they dive into cover and start, but now they will do so in the open when being fired upon.

    I've no objection as they are much easier to gun down. Although their drones (the elites anyway) seem to move like a forumula 1 race care. Is this change intented? RC cars I can see moving that fast, drones not so much.

    The final observation is similar in that Black Tusk don't seem picky any more about where they wander and seek cover. They are quite happy to wander right up to agents and among them. Like the drone users they don't seem that bothered about being shot at, or their own survival.

    I was using an LMG for quite a lot of it, and they didn't seem in the mood to be suppressed much either.

    Anyone else notice anything peculiar?
    Share this post

  2. #2
    of course the speed increase is intentional. Too many of the cars are being taken out by the player. Most likely 99% are stopped and i'm sure that massive is not happy with this.
    Share this post

  3. #3
    elkyri's Avatar Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Raggedy Edge
    Posts
    1,166
    Originally Posted by Edgemoor Go to original post
    Anyone else notice anything peculiar?
    Yep. I stuck up a post a day or two ago in the support forum. Response says Ubi is aware of some issues and still working on getting it fine tuned. Take a look:

    https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.ph...-more-tweaking

    .
    Share this post

  4. #4
    UbiInsulin's Avatar Community Manager
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Posts
    6,492
    Originally Posted by elkyri Go to original post
    Yep. I stuck up a post a day or two ago in the support forum. Response says Ubi is aware of some issues and still working on getting it fine tuned. Take a look:

    https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.ph...-more-tweaking

    .
    Yep, the Black Tusk drone issues have been reported for investigation. And the team's obviously made some AI changes recently. If you have any video showing the NPCs with no regard for their own safety (taken since the June 3rd maintenance), I'd be happy to take a look.
    Share this post

  5. #5
    Edgemoor's Avatar Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Posts
    1,686
    Originally Posted by UbiInsulin Go to original post
    Yep, the Black Tusk drone issues have been reported for investigation. And the team's obviously made some AI changes recently. If you have any video showing the NPCs with no regard for their own safety (taken since the June 3rd maintenance), I'd be happy to take a look.
    Sadly I've no footage, and I've finished the invaded missions for this week. The biggest issue I saw wad the elite drone operator releasing the drones when being pursued out in the open. Instead of running for cover or shooting back she would start releasing the drones. She is out in the open, standing up and going through the animations of releasing the drones. By the time she's finished she is one dead NPC.

    If I can get some footage I will.
    Share this post

  6. #6
    Edgemoor's Avatar Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Posts
    1,686
    Originally Posted by Ground-Hugg2018 Go to original post
    of course the speed increase is intentional. Too many of the cars are being taken out by the player. Most likely 99% are stopped and i'm sure that massive is not happy with this.
    Not so sure, sometimes they seem as normal and other times it's like they figured out how to run.
    Share this post

  7. #7
    Edgemoor's Avatar Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Posts
    1,686
    Originally Posted by elkyri Go to original post
    Yep. I stuck up a post a day or two ago in the support forum. Response says Ubi is aware of some issues and still working on getting it fine tuned. Take a look:

    https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.ph...-more-tweaking

    .
    Yeah that seemed to be an issue too. A few times I was caught staring at a Black Tusk NPC and they didn't shoot, not initially anyway. Other times they would climb up into the same cover I was in. But they would just seem to wander around as if we weren't there, even if they were shooting us.
    Share this post

  8. #8
    elkyri's Avatar Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Raggedy Edge
    Posts
    1,166
    Originally Posted by UbiInsulin Go to original post
    If you have any video showing the NPCs with no regard for their own safety (taken since the June 3rd maintenance), I'd be happy to take a look.
    Here you go: taken today during a run of the Jefferson Plaza (invaded) mission.

    First case is a drone controller. Hard to hear but she had just started to shout "drones......" while just standing there. You can see the action-in-progress icon above her head.

    Second and third cases are the asset controller. Behaviour similar to what I previously posted from a run of the District Union Arena and Tidal Basin on 4 June.

    Fourth case is the asset controller in the open world encountered enroute the Jefferson Plaza mission.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1jaX_-_YFA

    .
    Share this post