Your Game is Dying Already. Stop Catering to Casual Pve'ers. Fix the DZs PLEASE | Forums

[Stardust.One]

I don't think that pvp was the backbone of The Division. I was the diversity that it offered.

The Division, in many aspects, is still a class of it's own.

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I think PvP in the Division 2 Is hella weak. I am level 100 in conflict on 2 characters, run to middle, defender drone, shoot an entire mag to get rid of someone's armor. give us something fresh, like Capture the Flag, A hardpoint like gamemode, or bring back the 16 pvp game mode, that was hella fun. I am just bored so are a lot of the top players in the clans I play with, were just waiting for an update at this point, nothing else to do.

[SevenNVD]

To me the PvP is only a part of the problem.

I just can't get excited for The Divsion 2 anymore, and the worst part is, I can't put my finger on it why it is.

I got my money's worth, 2 characters all maxed out, and I will still check to see what's new every now and then, but that's it for me really. I can't see them turning this around.

It feels like a great game, but without a soul, a purpose or a good story. It feels like they tried to make it appealing for everyone, and lost it's character with that.

[moesuvious]

To me the PvP is only a part of the problem.

I just can't get excited for The Divsion 2 anymore, and the worst part is, I can't put my finger on it why it is.

I got my money's worth, 2 characters all maxed out, and I will still check to see what's new every now and then, but that's it for me really. I can't see them turning this around.

It feels like a great game, but without a soul, a purpose or a good story. It feels like they tried to make it appealing for everyone, and lost it's character with that.

I second this, its a good game but it doesnt pull at you like TD1 did at all. TD1 would have me running the DZ before work, even if i could only get 10 minutes in!! Most days in TD2 i dont even turn it on after work.

I think one of the main issues is the gear sets are beyond boring. So scared to create a meta that everything is just vanilla as it can be. I dunno, maybe itll find its footing at some point.

[EoT-Rampage]

Catering to casual pve-ers how? By making the raid only for 1% hardcore clans?

[CptCombatGamer]

Catering to casual pve-ers how? By making the raid only for 1% hardcore clans?

You forgot:

PvE broke the sniper rifles w/ OHK's
PvE broke the Beserk/Clutch/Strained builds
PvE broke the Generic Mods
PvE broke every other Talent that got nerfed into the dirt
PvE broke Armor Stacking Glitch
PvE broke "whatever" else gets cried about....



Where in any of this BS that is getting nerfed, is it ACTUALLY a PvE players fault???


It's all YT Streamers and the elitist crybaby/PvP'ers problem.



If UBI had kept everything SEPARATE as they had announced in the beggining, people wouldn't be quitting by the droves, and PvE wouldn't be taking it in the *** because of the ====ots from PvP can't/won't deal with getting killed instantly. You all knew what the PvP would turn into, and when it did you all cried "this is broken, that is broken"....

No, they were not, until "YOU" broke them by being a DB in the DZ with it....


Not one of these things needed to be altered for PvE. As nobody in PvE gave a s..t about them. Actually, it helped us play quicker/better. Now we have to change again.

Grr....It's NOT PvE's fault. It's "Your" own elitist/want to maximise PvP bulls..t that broke the system.

How about:

Get rid of PvP all together, and then there will not be any more "PROBLEMS".....

Gee, I fixed it the game....

[SevenNVD]

I second this, its a good game but it doesnt pull at you like TD1 did at all. TD1 would have me running the DZ before work, even if i could only get 10 minutes in!! Most days in TD2 i dont even turn it on after work.

I think one of the main issues is the gear sets are beyond boring. So scared to create a meta that everything is just vanilla as it can be. I dunno, maybe itll find its footing at some point.

Glad you agree. I dont know about gear sets being a main reason like you think, though. They are lacking, that's true, but I was having tons of fun in TD1 even without the gearsets. (Like before 1.3 or in survival).

I'm guessing, it's a combination of a lot of things. In general, The Division 2 is a decent game, with a couple flaws, but The Division 1 had an X-factor for me, even with all it's flaws.

[xX_RobinHood_Xx]

Your numbers have dropped off massively in the past week or so. You are losing players FAST.

Maybe you'll finally see that you need to stop catering to the Casual PVE players cuz they are not what will keep this game popular in the long run.

What made the Division 1 so popular for so long even though it had an insane amount of bugs and glitches?? It was the Pvp. It was so fun to play and fun to watch.(until you came out with Rogue 2.0) It was decent sized streamers playing the game for hours daily. Pvp was so fun.

Don't get me wrong I love PVE in Division 2. But the PvP is in a TERRIBLE state right now. The hardcore PvPers and streamers are what keep games going nowadays.

All the Big Division Streamers and YouTube creators are already starting to play other games. even the really loyal ones like, Epic SLayers, Jesimien, LikeButter, Widdz, Marco ….I can keep going. Fix the DZ easy. Rogue 1.0


Make all 3 Dzs just like Rogue 1,0 No bull **** toggle. No rogue cooldowns.
No checkpoint turrets to protect the Casual Pve players. There is an insane amount of different PVE content, there is no need for someone to go in the DZ if they don't want a fight

We want a dark, dirty and dangerous DZ.. Balance some **** out and the PLayers will come back to the DZ. Streamers will start playing and your numbers will go back up

Make the DZ Great Again!!!

Amen. 🙏🏻 , but tbh.. i won't even come back if it happen... I can't stand this game. TD1 is more alive, every day i can find server full of people that wants to pvp, not the cry babies pve.