Your Game is Dying Already. Stop Catering to Casual Pve'ers. Fix the DZs PLEASE | Forums

[speedy4022]

Yeah it is true it is not normalized in the DZ if it is still occupied however when it becomes unoccupied there is a countdown and it won’t let you extract items until it isn’t. Which means that if an armor glitcher manages to hit that window he can kill you and take your loot because he is essentially invincible. That happened more than once to my group.

[Mijati_GER]

DZ is dead, not the game

DZ is dead thnx to this ****ing cheaters who lough like hell, if they start hacking and use glitches to kill others.if its on me ... i would definatly remove DZ and PVP from this game after all
right now the DZ is the same broken **** like in D1 ..full of cheaters .
the next thing / move to save this game would be . to get ridd of these asian ****ing cheaters along with the russian ones, and provide area based servers with area chat.
for asian, and RU an extra server and kick them all from the european servers. it has nothing to do with racism, but in the past 20 years of online gaming , ( and wwe all know this ) u can find 98% of hacks cheats and so on, based in RU, asia

[IVAN--77--]

I support the author. DZ dies. Look at DZ in Division 1. There still huge number of players. They do not allow to die Divisions 1, but not PVE players.
People leave D2? Yes. In my clan there were always about 25 players online a month ago, 3-5 players online now. In other clans the situation is similar.
Mijati_GER, I from Russia. We also suffer from cheaters and big ping (often there is no damage to players at all, you can shoot 2 magazines and there will be no damage to the player). If arab players are on the server, then everyone starts teleporting ... I think it a problem of bad Ubi servers.
And bonus) we meet such people in DZ. Met two. Killed them as bosses of raid))

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[Staazvaind]

as an hardcore pve player i have to admit: the DZ needs serious overworking but why even bother ?

[Lens00140]

as an hardcore pve player i have to admit: the DZ needs serious overworking but why even bother ?

Yeah as a casual I'd agree, the DZ is laughable for all walks of players.

p.s op, you need casuals otherwise the DZ would be completely dead!... plus casuals make up a huge amount of sales keeping the gaming industry alive

[TimesLostArc]

Your numbers have dropped off massively in the past week or so. You are losing players FAST.

Maybe you'll finally see that you need to stop catering to the Casual PVE players cuz they are not what will keep this game popular in the long run.

What made the Division 1 so popular for so long even though it had an insane amount of bugs and glitches?? It was the Pvp. It was so fun to play and fun to watch.(until you came out with Rogue 2.0) It was decent sized streamers playing the game for hours daily. Pvp was so fun.

Don't get me wrong I love PVE in Division 2. But the PvP is in a TERRIBLE state right now. The hardcore PvPers and streamers are what keep games going nowadays.

All the Big Division Streamers and YouTube creators are already starting to play other games. even the really loyal ones like, Epic SLayers, Jesimien, LikeButter, Widdz, Marco ….I can keep going. Fix the DZ easy. Rogue 1.0


Make all 3 Dzs just like Rogue 1,0 No bull **** toggle. No rogue cooldowns.
No checkpoint turrets to protect the Casual Pve players. There is an insane amount of different PVE content, there is no need for someone to go in the DZ if they don't want a fight

We want a dark, dirty and dangerous DZ.. Balance some **** out and the PLayers will come back to the DZ. Streamers will start playing and your numbers will go back up

Make the DZ Great Again!!!

We already have everything you are asking for, it is called the Occupied DZ and it is a ghost town.

Even the people you mentioned like Widdz and Marco actually want a Rogue System for it now. Maybe it might be something like a hybrid of the 2, but the shoot to rogue mechanic has serious flaws and this current implementation of it brings those flaws to light. I think it is about time to admit that Rogue 1.0 was a failure and that 2.0 while painful was desirable. A further evolution of the system may be needed. It needs to be something that gave structure, avoided the unintended rogue on fire cheese, and made a fight a bit more even from the start(not as severe a gankers advantage).

Also, they weren't real fans of 1.8.3 and the Striker Nerfs. Striker kept a lot of things in check. It needed to be scaled back, but sadly it was nerfed into the ground for PvP. It would be nice to see a 1.8.4 that found a happier middle ground between Striker being ridiculously OP and it being as useless as it is now.

What most of them are actually complaining about if you actually listened to them was they wanted more outplay in these settings, lamented that there were no mid-fight options, and wanted for their min/maxing to mean something. Everything you posted in your OP is disconnected from what they have clearly stated.

[Mark_WWW]

Before asking for Dev effort & resources please signal it’s worth them doing anything by using the DZs you already have.

[DarkKnight27us]

Your numbers have dropped off massively in the past week or so. You are losing players FAST.

Please provide your proof of this statement. And just so we're on the same page, proof means actual numbers not anecdotal accounts like my friends don't play or my clan isn't active.

Show me actually numbers you have of how many people are playing the game and on what platform and then we can go forward from there.

Otherwise you're making stuff up, or worse you're lying, to make an argument sound like it has facts behind it when it doesn't.

[Corby..]

there are tons of pve players that really dont like pvp and play games like this for the mission and the task you have to do, many pvp players only want to show of how big there ego is anyway

[IIZAFFORDII]

I'm a PVE'er and play pretty much every single day.

In what way is that casual?