Tvrdi you are a remarkable person.
Seafire I basically agree with your post but when I read discussions about whiner discussions one underlying reality comes to my mind: Why do you guys still let it bother you? I’m not trying to undermine what I may be insensitive to. But when I look at the a/c whiner threads, at this point in time, I just pass them by. I've always had opinions about each FM and how I think it should be but they’re just my opinions: how I feel. When people take it beyond that with numbers here and there, rights, nationality bashing etc. it becomes a muddled complete bore. So I click the page off. Discussions about whining seem to me just as meaningless and nonproductive, at least at this point in time.
When I click off this forum â€" its off. Its been an excursion and the avatar names and written words are out of my mind (not saying there aren’t some here I think of warmly). I’ve appreciated this sim so much that anything written here hasn’t had the slightest affect on my judgment and enjoyment. It’s a great piece of work paying for itself untold times.
But the BF109 and FW190's have always been in FB and they generate at least half the whines, if not moreOriginally posted by WOLFMondo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NorrisMcWhirter:
I know two things:
a. Whining has been worse since certain planes were introduced.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I agree there has been whining over time but look around of late; most of the whine threads concerning the 109 and 190 are AGAINST them. '109 turns too well', '190 DM requires 5x10^6 .50 hits' type swipes presumably as some kind of concerted attempt to have them toned down in the next and, possibly, final patch. And look at the people that make the claims...they're not what you would call objective non-patriots (whereas I have the the luxury of just being 'objective'
Yes, the 190 DM is suspect at the moment but I think some of these people would prefer to have it like the Zero and they wouldn't bat an eyelid.
Like I said, Oleg is best positioned to know who does what and that was his verdict.
Ta,
Norris