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    Originally Posted by TAPE971 Go to original post
    Change (as in fix), deactivate or remove manual gearbox + clutch so this can not be abused anymore either to gain a acceleration advantage.
    Do you suggesting to play everybody on same type of gearbox?
    What about Auto, H-shifter?
    In some point all of them have some advantage depends of situation/event, device etc.
    I doubt that ppl who get used to manual will be happy to play with auto and same with those who get used to auto gearbox.
    The idea is interesting but here in TC2 even to remap keys on gamepad is some unrealistic problem since Hot Shots, so I'd refuse such experiments.

    Originally Posted by TAPE971 Go to original post
    And either let us be able to ghost when playing with friends, or all have to play solo (prefer the ghosting) so we can push all the time without having to worry accidentially ramming each other out of the races.
    There is even no any kind of LFC option in the game. Nothing for coop play was done, starting from Roster Menu where you can't see current activity. Chat always disappear in menu/map.
    Motivation to play in coop is only in results in some type of events, and even it not promoted well, so many ppl still don't know about it (btw in Drift it was nerfed, as far as I know, not fan of this discipline so not sure).

    And you suggesting to make it again slipstream paradise where will be dominate in leaderboards few crews and all solo-players will be screwed up. How they should to look for a crew in game without proper features and design?
    In TC1 situation was better with it but even there a lot of players complained about this aspect: 'crew-event' in summit where they should find a crew to enter; OP slipstream, which made solo runs useless.
    At first need to think about these things, and only then about ghosting in races. It's not realistic feature - ghosting, but slipstream gives huge advantage and it should not be "for free".
    In PvP it's acceptable and I'm fine with it because there is random players, but in coop it's different, there you should show off your skills how you can work together and avoiding collision is one of the main skill. If you want to use such advantage over a solo players as slipstream you have to pay for it with some efforts.

    Again, there is no pure crew-events, teaming up not promoting in game (or it's just made poor, if it's only title). To crew-up with random players is weird move imo, I rarely do it in games. And ofcourse no word about teams, clubs with information to join, nothing. And you asking about more advantage over solo players... :/
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    "Do you suggesting to play everybody on same type of gearbox?
    What about Auto, H-shifter?
    In some point all of them have some advantage depends of situation/event, device etc.
    I doubt that ppl who get used to manual will be happy to play with auto and same with those who get used to auto gearbox.
    The idea is interesting but here in TC2 even to remap keys on gamepad is some unrealistic problem since Hot Shots, so I'd refuse such experiments"


    That´s not what i am saying with this. What i want to say is simple, Even the playingfield.
    With a manual gearbox + clutch you can gain a fairly huge advantage in acceleration which also means you have the possibilty to get to speeds you would usually not get to solo most of the time.

    Take drag for example: Sequential Gearbox, double nos, decent shifting my max was 670 kp/h in vegas, with manual gearbox + clutch you can get to 700+ kp/h and quicker at that too. No i am not good in drag, but that is just one example, same thing goes for bikes in street races, the normal start is slow af, manual gearbox + clutch and you´re off with a bit of wheelspin but somehow way faster.

    Manual gearbox + clutch should be adjusted so that it is more in line with the other options and doesn´t give these performance advantages anymore. And if it takes time to find a solution for it then yes i think it should be deactivated until there is a solution, or at least don´t allow it in the summit.

    "And you suggesting to make it again slipstream paradise where will be dominate in leaderboards few crews and all solo-players will be screwed up."

    Your interpretation is not 100% correct there. Yes i said i would prefer to have ghosting in co-op back, but i also said in the same line you quoted "or have all players play solo".
    Just because i prefer the ghosting over the solo play, doesn´t mean it has to happen.
    I am fine with playing solo, but as it currently is you can play with friends yet if all are about similar in times no one can really push all the time depending on where everybody is on track and everyone needs to worry a bit about acidentially ending another ones run at a decent time.
    So either ghosting (prefered by me) or forced solo for all. I am fine with both,
    If it stays the way it is now, i am ok with that too.

    "And you asking about more advantage over solo players... :/"

    Just so you know most of my times are solo anyway (except events like everglades where slipstream can improve times drastically as it is now), so i´d be in a disadvantage as well if ghosting were to come back.
    Taking things out of context leads to misinterpretation, happens to me all the time.
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    In times like this I'm happy that devs ignore all our feedback.
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    No they don't
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    Manual clutch being somehow faster than automatic one that you see in this game is absurd. Where do devs get these ideas from? Inferiority complex?
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    Originally Posted by TAPE971 Go to original post
    Taking things out of context leads to misinterpretation, happens to me all the time.
    I just tried to make clear the consequence of some of your suggestitions.

    Originally Posted by TAPE971 Go to original post
    So either ghosting (prefered by me) or forced solo for all. I am fine with both
    Personally I don't like that some events using ghosts, some not.
    Imo it's misleading and shows inconsistent dev's vision of coop play. These events where are ghosting available even not marked anyhow. Don't you think it's weird?

    I'd be fine with ghosting in all events if game was about pure coop play, with clubs, crew features etc. But so far we don't have nothing similar, it should not be used at least in challenges like Summit.

    Simply you taking it as veteran of the game with alot of friends (and I understand you in some point), but look at this as newbie, who didn't play TC1, what a mess you'll see in this case.
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