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  1. #11
    A simple statement from the mods regarding the punishment for cheating players would stop all these threads from being made, just saying...
    It almost feels like they don't wanna tell us , cause they know they won't ban the cheaters, which is basically giving a pass for people to abuse the glitch.
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    Originally Posted by SIRLANCELOT444 Go to original post
    There is an oversight per se that allows world tier manipulation giving players 1million + armor
    Conflict is unplayable for me when one of these players are in session in rival team. I wouldnt want them on my team either. I know how to do this and I choose not too cause I know I would hurt legit players. Please fix this
    And it is players like me and you, who have been punished for YEARS by this game publisher becasue we clearly know what is right or wrong and don't need an official statement clearly explaining that giving yourself a 5 times the armor value by equipping a lower tier gear is unfair.

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    Originally Posted by SIRLANCELOT444 Go to original post
    As far as I know I first heard of this 3 days ago. I might put off PVP for a few more days until its fixed, I hope it will be fixed by the weekend. Agreed that it simply cannot go on any further.
    It will take WEEKS to be sorted out, remember their statement about patches a very long time ago? Apparently every patch needs to be approved first by SONY (enter your random invalid excuse here) etc before going live.

    Other developers take hours at worst fixing issues like this. Meanwhile, these monkeys are busy color correcting another series of fan made photos for their next state of the game.
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    Originally Posted by main-got-banned Go to original post
    Incorrect on this one,

    before we have purchased this game we have been reassured that this time, any unfair behaviour would be dealt with rapidly and strictly.

    But we all know about the truthfulness of their statements by now. Shame.
    No.

    At best this amounts to an exploit, nothing more (obviously open to argument but that's another discussion entirely).

    An exploit IS NOT a cheat.

    You are only to read the Code of Conduct for this to be blatantly obvious.

    https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.ph...ode-of-Conduct

    Now if we were to accept that this is an exploit, then at best a temporary suspension would be in order as per the above CoC.

    So yes, any unfair behaviour will indeed be dealt with in accordance with the Code of Conduct.

    Now here's the stickler:

    You WILL NOT be told who is subject to sanction and when said sanction has taken place: You are not entitled to said info. It's none of your business.
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    Originally Posted by RichardOshea Go to original post
    Ubisoft's course of action is as yet unkown. But it would be extremely unwise of any publisher to be seen to allow this behaviour to persist, and by extension it would consitute the condoning of such behaviour if no action were to be taken.
    The coarse of action would be to patch it. Banning players for their mistake is out of the question...
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    Originally Posted by Goo-Goo-Man Go to original post
    No.

    At best this amounts to an exploit, nothing more (obviously open to argument but that's another discussion entirely).

    An exploit IS NOT a cheat.

    You are only to read the Code of Conduct for this to be blatantly obvious.

    https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.ph...ode-of-Conduct

    Now if we were to accept that this is an exploit, then at best a temporary suspension would be in order as per the above CoC.

    So yes, any unfair behaviour will indeed be dealt with in accordance with the Code of Conduct.

    Now here's the stickler:

    You WILL NOT be told who is subject to sanction and when said sanction has taken place: You are not entitled to said info. It's none of your business.
    This silence only indicates that they're not punishing anyone, and simply didn't released a statement so people wouldn't go haywire with exploiting the normalized DZs.
    They don't need to tell us who or how cheaters are gonna get punished, only that there will be a punishment for the exploiters after all.
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    Originally Posted by bonngzilla Go to original post
    A simple statement from the mods regarding the punishment for cheating players would stop all these threads from being made, just saying...
    It almost feels like they don't wanna tell us , cause they know they won't ban the cheaters, which is basically giving a pass for people to abuse the glitch.
    If you really spend considerable part of your in-game time in these meaningless normalised game modes, your only course of action at this time is creating another character, farming low level gear (and mods, hello, it's been three months) and using it yourself. Or, like me, stay away from DZ and conflict.
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    Originally Posted by InfamousClub Go to original post
    The coarse of action would be to patch it. Banning players for their mistake is out of the question...
    It would be banning the player for their own mistake, namely exploiting a glitch with the intention of gaining an advantage, trivialising content and or disrupting the game. As has been demonstrated, this behaviour is not innocent; it requires specific action and prior knowledge of the method.
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    Originally Posted by Goo-Goo-Man Go to original post

    An exploit IS NOT a cheat.

    True.

    But using an exploit is cheating. All these people with 700K armor are using an exploit, which is known as cheating
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    Originally Posted by Goo-Goo-Man Go to original post
    No.

    At best this amounts to an exploit, nothing more (obviously open to argument but that's another discussion entirely).

    An exploit IS NOT a cheat.

    You are only to read the Code of Conduct for this to be blatantly obvious.

    https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.ph...ode-of-Conduct

    Now if we were to accept that this is an exploit, then at best a temporary suspension would be in order as per the above CoC.

    So yes, any unfair behaviour will indeed be dealt with in accordance with the Code of Conduct.

    Now here's the stickler:

    You WILL NOT be told who is subject to sanction and when said sanction has taken place: You are not entitled to said info. It's none of your business.
    An exploit is a cheat, enabled by the game developer itself. It is, no matter how you look at it.

    If a cheat maker was to create an almost invincibility, how would he go about it? By increasing the % armor value above regular values (I have all datamined spreadsheets for this game and know what is above and what isn't)

    I don't care whether they get their accounts deleted or permanently banned (bye OWO clan, you had it coming) or suspended for a month. As long, as it is equal or more towards the people who's game experience they ruined (just like Valve did by making CS:GO free to play). Punishment needs to be made, and it needs to be made publicly and transparent.

    Your "innocent until found guilty" doesn't apply in online games, they HAVE all the data they need. They always do. They know who moves more than allowed movement speed, who proc's more than allowed value off unstoppable force. It literally takes 1 search with the correct parameter in their database to get the EXACT list of the unfair players.
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