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But not for any reasons of sensitivity or anything like that.
It's just because the Knights aren't Christian. They speak Latin and resemble historical Knights of the medieval era, but they're not. They're closer to Romans, The Knights of Ashfeld are a colony from The Empire. The same Empire that Gladiator and Centurion are from. You can even see this in the lore where they reference having "Gods" several times. One of the most recent examples being from the Vortiger stories, where the Knight Commander that arrived late on the scene observed the havoc wrought and offered a "By the Gods" (iirc that's the wording, it may be different). You can even look up Erzebet's story on the website, and see that she used to worship the "Gods" as a Knight.
So, Deus Vult could still be valid, if there's say only a single god of War among the Knight Pantheon. But something along the words of "Deorum Vult" should work. I don't speak Latin and can only run off of Google Translate, but it should translate to "Gods Wills" aka "The Gods Will It"
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You are so getting a thumbs up for that.
I don't play Gladiator, so I didn't know that his Trident tossing feat was called Neptune's Wrath. Then there's the Ogenus mask outfit too. Yeah they definitely follow the Roman Pantheon then. In that case, I guess that Deus Vult could work, but it would probably be better if you named who wills it. Because there's like... 25+ Greek War Gods and 8 Roman War Gods. Then there's even the fact that you could also be fighting for Zeus/Jupiter or other gods. I'd love to see a Lawbringer that fights in the name of Hestia/Vesta, to protect the Hearth and Home from the ravages of war.
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Christianiti probably exists. Vikings have anti-Christian chants in Breach while pushing the ram (until they get a warm shower and hopefully some midseason nerfs).
And yes, I think that Ogenus and Neptun are gods existing in game. From Lawbringer moveset, there are hints that Iusticia exists (Blind Justice for example, though that is vague). I think there are more among the Elite and Mythic outfits section, and possibly some in Arcade stories.
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While the knights are more likely not Christian, their outfits can come extremely close to the ones Crusaders and Templars wore, which were Christian. And since For Honor occurs in a fictive world, it does not really matter what the characters seem to be like. It only matters how you see your character.
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That was actually a mis-translation by the YouTuber. You can look up the video now and it'll say "Viking Ram [Wrong Translation]". So I wouldn't trust that song as a solid influence of Christianity in this game. However, there are more solid influences. In the Lawbringer's Moveset, there are two near direct references to the Bible. The first being Book, Chapter, and Verse which is how The Bible was broken up when the medieval ages rolled around to make it easier and faster to read. The second being Fiat Lux, aka "Let there be Light." a VERY direct reference to The Bible. However, those are the only ones in the moveset. While many Knights have Fiat Lux, it appears as though only the Lawbringer has references to The Bible.Christianiti probably exists. Vikings have anti-Christian chants in Breach while pushing the ram (until they get a warm shower and hopefully some midseason nerfs).
However I do not have the game active and can't check the outfit, nor can I check the arcade mode as I don't have Marching Fire.
True enough, to be perfectly honest, I don't actually care too much that the community always shouts "Deus Vult". I just always found it interesting that the For Honor community heard Latin, saw armor that looks like the Crusaders, and immediately thought "They're Christian" without actually looking at the lore first. So I made this post to grab people's attention and see how the community would react to having it actually stated that the Knights are not majority Christian.While the knights are more likely not Christian, their outfits can come extremely close to the ones Crusaders and Templars wore, which were Christian. And since For Honor occurs in a fictive world, it does not really matter what the characters seem to be like. It only matters how you see your character.
The answer is apparently they take it well, accept that they likely worship the Roman Pantheon, but also reiterate that ultimately it's down to personal choice. Good on ya'll.
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Were you expecting some sort of Christian existential meltdown or something?Originally Posted by LeviathanWard Go to original post
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Not really. More along what DFQN1 said, regarding that the baseline for the memery was there and that what matters most is personal preference. Except a lot lot more rudely. I'm actually pretty happy with how this thread turned out.Were you expecting some sort of Christian existential meltdown or something?
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I mean sure you are right as far as the games portrayal, but the classicised knight was absolutely christian. So to me this debate is moot because both arguments are valid. IE game lore wise they seem poly, but design and the word knight for the faction absolutely appeals to the middle ages/dark ages knight.
https://www.google.com/search?q=orig...obile&ie=UTF-8
And in fact if you dig deeper youll find out the calling certain roman and greek soldiers knights was done retroactively by historians. Knight as a word absolutrly refers to middle ages.
The original 4 knight heroes were definately taken from the middle ages inspiration wise. Black prior as well. Even if he is pagan in style Vortiger is based on a character just barely post fall of rome.
So again although i dont care, echo DFQN1 post, i personally would argue 5/7 knights are taken from dark/middle ages, and the other 2 are from earlier. Peacekeeper even if not logical (female assassin knight) is still armored in a very germanic style.
