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  1. #11
    Yep, even Xbox one is riddled with cheats in the Dz. The main one at the moment seems to be not taking any damage and dropping you in 1 second. Used my 10k fa deadeye on one player yesterday who I've always thought was using something for over a year or more who has gone full blatant cheat in front of a server full of players. Shot him 4 time's with my m700 which hits at 450,000 + and registered 90,000 a hit on said player dropping his health to half, who then turns, laughs and sticky bombs me ! I message him, saying I'm recording our next encounter. 10 mins later see him rogue again, dropped him with 2 shots this time 🤔 got me a list of hackers names these past months who im hopefully gonna catch in the act and record them this time and hopefully see them banned for good !
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    As has been said in many other threads recently and throughout the lifetime of The Division, we have, do, and will continue to ban proven cheaters. To report a suspected cheater, please go to Ubisoft Support to submit a ticket with as much information as you can provide.

    From there we will perform an investigation and take the appropriate actions.

    The forums are not the place to try and call out cheaters or make hackusations. We have official and functioning channels to report cheaters - and the forums are not those channels. Thank you.
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    Originally Posted by Ubi-RealDude Go to original post
    As has been said in many other threads recently and throughout the lifetime of The Division, we have, do, and will continue to ban proven cheaters. To report a suspected cheater, please go to Ubisoft Support to submit a ticket with as much information as you can provide.

    From there we will perform an investigation and take the appropriate actions.

    The forums are not the place to try and call out cheaters or make hackusations. We have official and functioning channels to report cheaters - and the forums are not those channels. Thank you.
    Hey RealDude, just some feedback that maybe you can bump up the line - or at least consider.

    While I respect that you have to stick to the company line, many folks (myself included) have demonstrably and repeatedly proved that Ubi does not ban or even follow up on the most common hacks being used. Running speed hacks, walls hacks (shooting through them) and planting a headshot from the other side of the map? Yes, they do still ban these folks. As recently as 6 weeks ago I submitted evidence of this and the player's account disappeared. All good there.

    These cheats, however, are actually quite rare. Probably because it's so glaringly obvious I don't think I've encountered even a dozen of these in the 3+ years I've been playing Div 1. RPM hacks (and possibly aimbots), however, are as common as popcorn at a movie theater, and have become so prevalent as to render the DZ almost unplayable (unless you land a lucky time and it's empty). And no, I am not talking 20% boosts or something where you might not be certain. I am talking about players dumping an entire Hungry Hog clip (100+ rounds) into you in under a second. Same with the House; 60+ rounds and instant bleeding death in under a second (they typically pair it with Classified Pred). I've submitted multiple tickets with video proof of these kinds of hacks since last winter, and not a single one has been followed up on, banned or otherwise anything done. This despite the fact that anyone playing the game more than 20 minutes knows these stats are not even remotely possible legitimately.

    I do not know if Ubi's inaction is because of the sheer volume of these hacks or what, but the fact remains that the most common cheats (96% by my calculations) are untouched and allowed to play in the game. I still see the same hackers in the DZ time and time again, and everyone knows they are are reports them, yet they continue to instantly shred players knowing they can and will get away with it.

    I don't expect you to speculate why this is (and I know you won't), but wanted to explain why people are griping here and most have given up submitting complaint tickets for the majority of hackers they come across, but come here to vent instead. So long as names aren't mentioned I see no violation of forum policy, so I'd just let them vent their frustrations.
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    Originally Posted by HonestlyOK1986 Go to original post
    Td1 is dead
    It sounds like the DZ is, but the LZ is alive and well, especially during the GE's (going on now).
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    Originally Posted by Ubi-RealDude Go to original post
    As has been said in many other threads recently and throughout the lifetime of The Division, we have, do, and will continue to ban proven cheaters. To report a suspected cheater, please go to Ubisoft Support to submit a ticket with as much information as you can provide.

    From there we will perform an investigation and take the appropriate actions.

    The forums are not the place to try and call out cheaters or make hackusations. We have official and functioning channels to report cheaters - and the forums are not those channels. Thank you.
    I think some of the ubi guys should take a look in the Dz once in a while, but make sure you put on your spurs and cowboy hat, cos it's the wild west in there where anything happens 🤔 thank you.
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    Hahaha. Well I can assure you that players are not the only one that cheat. Just noticed in Underground where AI climbs through shop window that was fenced off. Still do believe that cheaters are abundant in this game but now way there is anyone out there that does a better job at cheating than the game itself. Not to mention the times they are just firing through object you can't even get close to and shoot back, but yeah, that is The Division at is best when it comes to cheating. Maybe the development team likes it to be that way.

    And I don't think that anyone at Massive or UbiSoft ever enters any session in DZ to see what is going on. They rather have players spent lots of time recording and uploading videos that are most likely judged as good enough evidence to ban players. I play daily and always see the same people running around doing manhunt that are identified as cheaters by the rest of the players. There are even those that chat about which ones they are using. Couldn't be much easier to track and ban those people.

    The replies you get from moderators here are getting old. Also never understood why you can't block players (ban them yourself) in game.
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    Heck, even the Asian spam bots are running strong and they would be a lot easier to trace. I work with spam filters every day at my job. The critical thing is patterns from one to the next. These, the same message is posted in chat day after day. I do believe they ban them, but they just come back with a new username. My thoughts are is that if the ban requires them to buy another copy of the game in order to post again, then there is actual incentive to not fix the spam bot issue.

    I think a simple solution for spam that might help a little, is for the game to only allow so many posts per hour of game play. And, by game play, I mean actually out in the world. No real player will sit in the lobby all day, every day chatting.


    Back to the topic, I can't think of any benefit to allow the cheaters to continue in the game (LZ too). Maybe they just don't want to spend the man-hours on it and instead are busy taking TD2 backwards.
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    Originally Posted by Ubi-RealDude Go to original post
    As has been said in many other threads recently and throughout the lifetime of The Division, we have, do, and will continue to ban proven cheaters. To report a suspected cheater, please go to Ubisoft Support to submit a ticket with as much information as you can provide.

    From there we will perform an investigation and take the appropriate actions.

    The forums are not the place to try and call out cheaters or make hackusations. We have official and functioning channels to report cheaters - and the forums are not those channels. Thank you.
    I think the issue isn't how they're raised, the issue is you are not informed of the outcome. Even XBL confirms they've taken action even if its a simple comms ban whereas you guys are seen to be doing nothing.

    I havent ventured into td1 in weeks due to the level of cheats and aimbots etc going on in there on the xbox. Thankfully its only lag that ruins td2 so far, however if that changes and cheats roam as free as they do in td1, you wont have seen someone get rid of a game so quickly.
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    Originally Posted by HonestlyOK1986 Go to original post
    I think the issue isn't how they're raised, the issue is you are not informed of the outcome. Even XBL confirms they've taken action even if its a simple comms ban whereas you guys are seen to be doing nothing.

    I havent ventured into td1 in weeks due to the level of cheats and aimbots etc going on in there on the xbox. Thankfully its only lag that ruins td2 so far, however if that changes and cheats roam as free as they do in td1, you wont have seen someone get rid of a game so quickly.
    You're not missing much. I went in first time in weeks, and the very first players I run across are two Brazilians running RPM hacks and aimbots. They initiate bleed on you with a House from two blocks away (enough to instantly pop your Recovery link) then run over and emote while yelling "EASY!"

    Just out of curiosity I let them do it a few more times while recording, then will submit a ticket. I am willing to bet money Ubi won't do anything, but since I haven't put one in in months I want to see.
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    Well I waited a week and re-checked, and to the surprise of absolutely no one the reported players are still active and hacking as always.

    So RealDude, Johan and any other Ubi reps who read this: after 20+ reported hackers the pattern here is crystal clear. RPM hacks (the most common used in the DZ by far) are not considered cheating or an issue of concern by Ubisoft.

    Is it any wonder the majority of DZ players (and for sure 100% of Brazilian players) can all dump entire extended clips and reload, all in under a second? This hack is plentiful, cheap, and apparently (if not condoned) at the very least tolerated by Ubi support. Consider this next time you repeat the company line about the proper channels for reporting cheaters.

    I was in for a tiny bit yesterday and immediately came across another team of Brazilian rogues very clearly and very obviously sporting 5,000+ RPM hacks (and all the legit players knew it) and even got some good footage, but won't waste my time submitting a report any longer. It makes no difference in the end.
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