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[Okt0g00N]

So i will be talking about a talent system, and i will actually do some over time, currently there is only Warden that can give Ubisoft some ideas for it.
1 character level will be 1 point, and you will have 100 maximum points for each character.
Also you can split talents tree meaning i can do 50-50 on both or 70-30,40-60, 31-69 and much more.

TALENT POINTS/TREES CAN BE COMBINED RESULTING IN MIXED SETUPS.



Warden



Tireless 0/5
Lost stamina 2/4/6/8/10% slower while
also recovering stamina while OOS
3/6/9/12/15% faster.

Metal Ravage 0/2
Your zone attack has a 5/10% wider
arc and a 6/12% longer range also
costing 10/15 less stamina.

Heavy Blade 0/5
Crushing Counter and finishers
deal 1/2/3/4/5 more damage and will
stun the enemy for 0.500MS.

Slice And Dice 0/2
Attacks after a zone attack will
hit all the targets infront of you in
a wide arc dealing 5/10 extra damage.

Improved Morale Boost 0/1
Morale Boost lasts 10 more seconds
and it will also regenerate your health
at a 2HP/sec.

Blade Barrier 0/3
Once you parry an attack you gain a 10/20
/30% damage reduction and a 5/10/15% damage boost
for 8/10/12 seconds. Parrying an attack while
having this will reset the time.

Tip Of The Sword 0/2
Heavy attacks will do 6/8 more damage but will
drain 8/5 more stamina.

Unshackled Rage 0/5
After landing your level 2 and 3 shoulder bash, the next attack will deal
2/4/6/8/10 more damage but will deplete 12/9/7/5/3 more stamina.

King's Might 0/1
Gain Perk replacing your Morale Boost that will
make all your attacks unblockable for 20 seconds.
Has a 1 and 1/2 minute cooldown/recharge.

Deep Wounds 0/4
All heavy attacks and crushing counters will make the enemy
suffer 3/6/10/14 bleed damage.

Looser's Favor 0/10
While being attacked by more than 1 enemy or
by having less health than your opponent will make you
heal for 5/10/15/20/25/30/35/40/45/50% of your missing health
when parrying or countering an attack.

Avenging Wrath 0/5
If any ally dies while fighting next to you, you enrage
dealing 0/1/2/3/4 more damage per hit for
8/10/12/14/16 seconds.

Eye For An Eye 0/3
Parrying an attack will increase your damage by
3/5/7 and will also apply a 5/10/15 bleed on the target.

Catastrophic Blow 0/2
Replace your Body Count with a strike that hits around the
stomach area putting you and the enemy in a cutscene for 2
seconds while you rest your blade into the enemy's stomach
dealing 35/45 bleeding damage over 6/8 seconds.

Burning Hope 0/5
Enemies hit by your attacks will lost stamina 2/4/6/10/14% faster
while you gain a pair of 2 metalic wings on your back that burn for
8/12/14/16/18 seconds to ashes, while your wings are burning the
enemy suffers from the stamina debuff.

Improved Valiant Breakthrough 0/5
Its distance is increased by 10/20/30/40/50%
and it deals 2/4/6/8/14 more damage.

Shockful Bash 0/5
Your Level 2 and 3 SB(Shoulder Bash)
come out and will travel 2/4/6/8/15% more.

Unending Assault 0/5
You run 3/5/7/9/12% faster and
attacks generate 2/4/6/8/10 stamina.

Mastery 0/10
Increase your health by 2/4/6/8/10/12/14/16/18/20 and
your exp + money gain after a match by 3/6/9/12/15/18/21/24/27/30%.

70 Points Talent Tree



Second Talent Panel



Deflection 0/5
Blocking will grant Sharpen Blade for 4/8/12/16/20 seconds.

Unlimited Strength 0/5
Heavy attacks will increase your damage dealt for your next hit
by 2/3/4/5/6

Corrupted Eye 0/3
Landing an unblockable attack or getting hit by an
unblockable attack will enhance your zone attack making it
go through any sort or defense dealing 7/14/21 more damage.

Unending Revenge 0/2
Revenge will now last 5/10 seconds more and
will regenerate 7/14 health second.

Siegebreaker 0/5
Crushing Counter and finishers now give you 7/14/21/28/35 shield
and increase the target's damage taken by 6/12/18/24/30% for
2/4/6/8/10 seconds.

Mortal Strike 0/5
Finishers and Crushing Counter will have a blue trail while
also making them put a debuff on the enemy for 5/10/15/20/25 seconds
making them not be able if they die within the timer if not executed, and if
executed your whole team gets 7/14/21/28/35 health.

Beast Within 0/5
After Parrying or Crushing Countering you will riposte the enemy dealing 1/2/4/6/10 extra
damage on your next attack.

Focused Fire 0/10
Your critical health state requirements are increase by 20% and while
in critical health you gain focus points per 0.7 seconds making your next attack
generate 3/7/12/17/22 stamina per point and deal 1/2/3/4/4/4/5/5/5/6/7 bonus damage per attack
you gain a maximum of 3 stacks.

Threat Link 0/5
Once locked to an enemy, they move 5/10/15/20/25% slower and will
take 5% of your missing health as damage when hit by your attacks.

Hungering Strikes 0/5
Attacks regenerate 5/10/15/20/25% of your missing health as stamina.

Enrage 0/5
Landing an unblockable will make your next zone attack
deal 2/5/7/10/12 more damage.

Cataclysmic Rise 0/5
Finishers and Crushing Counter create spikes on you, making you get
5/10/15/20/25% less damage for 6/12/18/24/30 seconds.

Overwhelming Power 0/5
Unblockable attacks make your enemy stagger
increasing their recovery by 5/10/15/20/25%.

Dragonic Appearance 0/5
Landed heavy attacks will make your lungs fill with fire.
Dragonic Appearance stacks 3 times, stacks are gained
by landing a heavy attack and they make your regenerate 3/6/9/12/15% health
from your current attack, but once it reaches 3 stacks, you release a
powerful shout creating a dragon head on your helmet increasing your
unblockable attack's damage by 1/2/4/6/8.

70 Points Talent Tree

[MessirePhilippe]

I totally love the idea of Talent and all BUT i think now it's over for this type of improvement , too much hero ,too much balance,too much time for Ubisoft , for me in the actual state in the game is not possible, and if they do ,that gonna be a big carnage in the actual game(at my eyes off course) but i very like the idea for my part!

[Vakris_One]

This is something that belongs in an RPG/MMO PvE game not a PvP fighting game.

[Illyrian_King]

I would be all in for such a thing!

This game desperatly needs some kind of individualization. Perks are really not enough.

[We.the.North]

For Honor used to have gear system able to promote character customization. You could build with faster feat coolodown ; or better revenge ; or better average stats.

Now, we have this crappy perk system clearly in favor of Heavy characters and no customization.

[Okt0g00N]

Thank you for reading my post, and yea they should add a gear system or something back but more simplified with like stamina, strength and stuff like that, and per each 100 or so points you gain X amount of improvement in that stat.
let's say accuracy could increase your finishers damage by X amount but lower your normal and chain hits damage by X amount or strength will just increase your damage overall by X amount, stamina could increase your health and stamina by X amount.

[LightUpTheEyes]

This is something that belongs in an RPG/MMO PvE game not a PvP fighting game.

I'd rather For Honor 2 be an open world action semi mmorpg. Choose your faction, create your character and give them a fight deck similar to Absolvers. Have classes actually mean something. Choose your main weapon, but your character can use other weapons you just have to level the proficiency up and stuff like that.

You can still have Dominion and such by having everything normalized, but in the actual open world part, gear matters.

Plus it would be cool with the fight deck type system not knowing what moves your opponents have equipped.

[Vendelkin]

This is something that belongs in an RPG/MMO PvE game not a PvP fighting game.

Im with vakris.
I really love this idea, but it would make tje game far less balanced and more confusing. Matchmaking would need to be based on this lvl alone or it would take too long and be unfair. There could be a custom gameplay mode foe this, or it could apply just to arcade style modes. Additionally it would destroy perks, and the old gear system.

More on that note. The old gear system was retired because it made characters far too strong and unbalanced. And the old gear system tended to push attack to a max of +20% so just a ten point warden would already be able to deal +15% dmg in situation with bonus base damage. This would very obviously be OP

Again i love this idea but in pvp it would make things even worse, unless a test mode was given to us specifically for playing with these talent trees active.

Also a big part of this game is learning what your opponent can and cant do. With this talent system everything would be way to unpredictable.

[Vendelkin]

Here is me picking out just a few that would be immediatly way OP even by themselves (stronger already than any perk in the game)

Deep wounds, + heavy blade would be insane. Your talking 19 extra dmg before any other % bonuses on a LIGHT. Most lights dont even have tha much dmg at base

Unending revenge alone is way too powerful.

Siegebreaker + ^^DW+HB would be utter insanity. 19 bonus dmg + a 35 hp overshield + 30% dmg? Two crushing counters would kill anyone in the game.

Overwhelming power. Anything effecting recovery times, or opponent movement speed, would massively destroy what semblance of balance we already have.

[nufrancis]

yeah... I almost cant feel the advantage of using perks. I know Ubi wants to make a more balance gameplay for newbie, but still this is underwhelming