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  1. #1

    Hitokiri needs a nerf.

    Simple as that. A small nerf is really needed with this hero. You can bet all your money that a hitokiri will get at least 10/0 in dominion, 20/0 in breach.

    The problem with her? Hyper armor. She should not be getting hyper armor on every attack because it force a defensive meta. Give a look at her Ubisoft.
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    The problem isn't an armor, the problem people who agressivly trying to attack and trade with her.
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  3. #3
    And how early her armor shows up from neutral is already being looked at. But she needs buffs too.
    She's not OP she's just boring to fight if you don't have a bash.
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    Originally Posted by alfair Go to original post
    Simple as that. A small nerf is really needed with this hero. You can bet all your money that a hitokiri will get at least 10/0 in dominion, 20/0 in breach.

    The problem with her? Hyper armor. She should not be getting hyper armor on every attack because it force a defensive meta. Give a look at her Ubisoft.
    Which of her attacks would you remove hyper armor from? Does she need anything to compensate for that?
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    The instant hyper armor on uncharged fast heavy from neutral can easily be considered overpowered/broken move that can be abused. Simply pressing heavy attack whenever your indicator flashes red and win most of the time, well, speaks for itself. Id much rather see it "fixed" fast with rest of her being left for later, than going with the excuse of "But she becomes too weak if rest of her stuff doesnt get changed at the same time" and keeping it around.
    Its a bad thing that promotes turtling. Unless you have the option of bash spam, which is just as awful thing to do. Counter one awful technique with another. Thats no good.
    Hyper armor should be an uncommon thing like it used to and on slower moves. Not have a character be based on literally everything they do being uninterruptible with no consideration for how good would it already be without HA as a bonus.
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    This character is extremely boring to play against. They can go for parries more than any other hero except for maybe Conq because of that nigh-instant HA on heavies, while parrying her has way too much guessing involved. So you're just forced to stand there and block. If I beat a Hitokiri I feel nothing and like I haven't learned anything, the only other hero that is similar in that regard is Aramusha.

    The thing that balances it out is that you can escape the kick/sweep/GB every time, but that will change. If she gets basically Warden's mixup and those instant-HA, variable timing heavies... ugh.

    I guess time will tell.
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    Originally Posted by EvoX. Go to original post
    This character is extremely boring to play against. They can go for parries more than any other hero except for maybe Conq because of that nigh-instant HA on heavies, while parrying her has way too much guessing involved. So you're just forced to stand there and block. If I beat a Hitokiri I feel nothing and like I haven't learned anything, the only other hero that is similar in that regard is Aramusha.

    The thing that balances it out is that you can escape the kick/sweep/GB every time, but that will change. If she gets basically Warden's mixup and those instant-HA, variable timing heavies... ugh.

    I guess time will tell.
    I approach her like I approach goki. Where I only parry lights. I dodge the rest because it's safer and nets you a bigger reward.

    You can also guard break her quite easily if she's always trying to bait with charging it up.
    But most hitokiris I fight don't do that so I just feint and parry their attempt to trade.

    I hope whatever they do with her she becomes more fun to use and play against.
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    -The second HA Heavy attack she does.

    -No. Nothing compensated. Every hitokiri wins 10/0+ in every type of game. It's enough to tell you how broken she is.

    @leplekret well... that's what calls for a turtle meta. You don't want a turtle meta dude, trust me.
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    Originally Posted by alfair Go to original post
    -The second HA Heavy attack she does.

    -No. Nothing compensated. Every hitokiri wins 10/0+ in every type of game. It's enough to tell you how broken she is.

    @leplekret well... that's what calls for a turtle meta. You don't want a turtle meta dude, trust me.
    I'd advise you to actually learn her then before making suggestions about her. You can dislike her design but your view on her power is factually incorrect.

    She's considered B/C tier by the best players in the game for a reason.
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  10. #10
    ??? I already got her.... and your argument is invalid. You should not use an expert tier list as reason to qualify a hero in this game.
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