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  1. #21
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    Originally Posted by rma2110 Go to original post
    If you want a challenge, fine that is understandable. The raid should have multiple difficulty, but are you really so devoid of empathy that you don’t feel for those who feel locked out? They’re just trash who want a participation trophy, right? Some of us have injured hands and are not so quick on the controls. Some of us don’t have 20\20 vision or we’ve just gotten older. How about I pay $500 to the first person who can give me an eagle bearer? Would that be fair? I know i’m unwelcome trash in this elitist bro community but there must be a happy medium.
    The happy medium is realizing that not every single part of everything has to be catered to everyone.

    Most people should understand this at some point in their life.. there's multiple lanes on the highways.. not all of them are designed to take everyone to the same place.

    Your lane has you not being able to complete some raid in a video game. You've now brought up a bunch of excuses as to why you can't do it.. none of them having anything to do with the actual game.

    Instead of excepting that.... And continuing on in your lane... You've decided to ask the entire deployment team to re-route the highway because you got a bum hand, eye, or whatever...

    You see what I mean?
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  2. #22
    Originally Posted by TribeCheckAHoe Go to original post
    The happy medium is realizing that not every single part of everything has to be catered to everyone.

    Most people should understand this at some point in their life.. there's multiple lanes on the highways.. not all of them are designed to take everyone to the same place.

    Your lane has you not being able to complete some raid in a video game. You've now brought up a bunch of excuses as to why you can't do it.. none of them having anything to do with the actual game.

    Instead of excepting that.... And continuing on in your lane... You've decided to ask the entire deployment team to re-route the highway because you got a bum hand, eye, or whatever...

    You see what I mean?
    I just want to say. Your arguement is so 2 dimensional. The world works in 3dimensions. When driving it even goes into a 4th dimension since lanes of traffic can be uplifted into bridges or interstate changes. Heck even tunnels.
    And your arguement falls flat on the face.
    Everyone should be able to enjoy the content they paid for. To be gated out of it for difficulty is just non-sense. Simple fix. Add multiple difficulties... Add diversified playstyles to choose roles that aren't as simple as DPS. DPS. DPS.
    Common knowledge. All raids before Div 2's utilized roles and mechanics that are timed or even have waves of certain amounts of enemies. Division 2's mechanics are like a schizophrenic's mind on Adder-all.
    In other words. There's so much going on for the first boss. the 2nd boss set and the third boss set are essentially easier than the first boss when they both are combined...

    You see what I'm saying now?

    There should ALWAYS BE SEPARATE difficulties for the community. Look at WoW. Afterall I said before I'm an avid 9year vet of WoW since the beta in 2003. Common knowledge to include the community. They added Looking For Raid afterall because, well... IT WAS NECESSARY to meet expectations of casuals. hardcore players. In General people that are normal and don't have all day or all week to raid.
    Seriously dude. Do your research into raids. You'll find that I'm right.
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  3. #23
    Originally Posted by o2-D3nTe Go to original post
    Until next week where you all come back saying there is no reason to grind for loots because all the content is accessible with a random build. Then we get the "dead game, no content" posts. Grinding for gear to be able to tackle harder content is a core element of the game. If your build won't let you do the raid now, then grind and do it in a month, the raid is not going anywhere.
    You are assuming people want to put themselves through the Raid in its current state (i.e. super bullet sponge mode with a forced meta) ... The Division 2 is supposed to be entertainment, not a job, if content is inaccessible / unenjoyable (or perceived to be so) then it may as well not exist; i.e. "no content, dead game" is already the reality for a lot of people.
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  4. #24
    Eh, I'd just like to see matchmaking added. With how heavy the game is with matchmaking with every activity it just makes zero sense. I get the impression that they were trying to push clans but with so many clans gutted it makes zero sense.
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  5. #25
    Originally Posted by SocialHandicap Go to original post
    PLEASE dont nerf the raid. You could maybe make the hit boxes slightly larger on console...but dont nerf it. PC'ers are now running it in 20s...and the first group that took 36 hours (over DAYS children...CHECKPOINTS) on console has now done it again in 2.

    OBVIOULSY it is doable. Dont change it so you can use SMGS...or shotguns. WHATEVER. Raids are specific function oriented yeah? ARs and LMGs. Damage.

    WHAT YOU SHOULD DO is open up raid loot to the hardest PVE content on the main side of the game (Heroic) at a slight chance in relation to the raid chance itself.

    IT DOESNT MATTER if a large part of the player base cant complete the raid...it's not supposed to be easily attainable. Obviously it is doable...in 2 hours on console. There is a checkpoint system that lasts A. WEEK. Videos are out.

    You need to give people matchmaking so everyone has easy access (and learn that it isn't viable when people drop out because "it's just too hard massive whaaaaaa" and there is no teamwork) and ALSO open "raid" loot to the HARDEST main side PVE content at a lower chance.

    It really is NOT fair to leave loot locked behind the raid...especially when we know so many wont achieve it without hand holding...but lowering the difficulty of the raid to appease casuals is not the answer either. Be prepared though because when you (as you should) drop the loot behind the main side PVE heroic or CP4's (would not recommend this one but just saying) that will become "too hard massive not fun blahs blahs blah."
    So what you are asking for is that only two builds be allowed to access the raid. I'm OK with that as long as your's isn't one of them.. how do you feel about that? Also, can you explicitly define casual for me as I've never really found a succinct definition that isn't eletist claptrap.
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