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The centurion is outdated and can’t keep up with all this hyper armor, dodge attacks, long range unblockables, long range attacks that aren’t locked on him, soft feint zones, zone attacks that can be cancelled, and being interrupted out of any action because he has no reach.
He is completely useless now I don’t see any sense on why even pick him now on any game mode when they can dodge attack, dodge gb, or have better tracking.
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What are you talking about. Centurion is still damn broken. Just one hit and you are done because he next hit you a punch then a unblockable hit and you are on the floor, and then he jumps and boom. I mean, if he hits you the first hit on that chain you are done. 2vs1 him is very annoying because even if im not tired he puts you on the floor.
How can you think he is useless.
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the problem with centurion is his power is balanced on a needle his wall splat combo is high damage but thats the only thing about him that is high damage. his punch has no tracking his heavy attacks are weak and easy to block his light attacks are easy to parry and the kick is weird it guarantees a light attack its a 50/50 for a heavy attack its very slow (like 600ms slow) and unlike the conquerors shove you cant do it straight from sprinting. the feat haymaker is the problem with the wall splat combo. it makes all throws,punches and kicks deal damage without haymaker the damage is 65 instead of 80+. if they reduced it to 55 made his GB window on his unblockables smaller, sped up his light attacks and reworked his basic kit and either make haymaker a 3rd tier perk, replace it or reduce the feats damage he would be fair.
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Centurion have no right to be reworked until Orochi is. You can complain all you want about Centurion being weak, he still have :
- A bash
-Heavy that soft feint into GB
- Extremely strong parry punish near walls
- Variable Heavy timing that make them next to impossible to GB
- Unblockable
- Hyperarmor on forward dodge Heavy
- OOS pressure
Orochi have none of the tool listed above. Centurion's uncharged Heavy are also faster than Orochi's Heavy ( 600 ms vs 700 ms top and 800 ms side ) while his starting Light are as fast as Orochi's ( 500 ms ) and does not need to be faster in any way unlike some idiot above said. So keep your a little outdated but still usable character while peoples try to play a character with an empty kit struggle waiting for a rework.
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Centurion’s kick isn’t safe and it’s easy to counter %100 of the time no mind games at all.Originally Posted by Magostera Go to original post
His heavy into soft feint gb is not even buff the only players that have trouble with that are the ones who only parry attacks; that move is the easiest of his kit for good players not to fall for because the first 2 sec is the only window for the gb and everyone that is parry hungry tries to parry right away when everyone know that the parry window is when the attack is about to hit.
All heroes have a wall punish and even then no one really falls for those anymore they all stay away from walls.
The other stuff you mentioned all heroes have that but even better than the centurion.
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Now what I think they should change is his
-zone attack
-charged jab should only drop you if you have no stamina
-the charged jab should be like shugoki gb heavy where it only sends you flying and doesn’t follow up anything else
-better tracking on his attacks non of that
t-Rex arms gb or attack when the opponent isn’t even out of his range
-some hyper armor on certain attacks or chains idk something
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Bzzzzzt, wrong. Your entire argument fall apart by simply saying that other heroes have what Centurion have but better when it is painfully obvious that you are wrong. Name a single things among "what I mentionned" that Orochi is supposed to possess. You can't without lying.
Centurion even if weak in duel stay strong in 4v4 because he is an excellent ganker : punch beat Revenge allow free kill, Kick is a bash and thus gank enabler, and his unblockable can be timed to land no matter what the opponent do if there is a teammate to help. Orochi dont even have that, the opponent just have to block in its direction to shut him down.
So what I said stand. Centurion is still many time stronger than Orochi and his kit is much more diversified and usable. I do not say Centurion should not receive a rework/buff. But by all means Orochi should have much higher priority.
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Anyone who complains about cent being "too strong" or "broken" are mentally retar-ded. Truly retar-ded.
However, does that make him weak? Not exactly, to a average player he can't do sh-it, but to someone who can parry, he is a go to choice. Cent is only good because of his chip damage and his parry punishes, he has a crap kick, but at least has one, and soft feints. Does he need a buff? Hell yes.
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Cent doesn't need a buff nor nerf. He's just need to be rebalanced. Becouse he is really a monster against low skill players, but totally useless against high- and even middle skill players. Ubi just need to review his current combo, make it less punishing for newbies, and give him some combo against high levels.
