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    Regarding the matchmaking issue

    Lemme first say I agree with the overwhelming sentiment that MM should be an option for the raid. I think forcing players to find their own groups, while it does have some redeeming qualities when it comes to community building, is overall a bad thing for the game.

    That said, y'all MFs need to calm down.

    Making rage posts calling the devs lairs and threatening lawsuits is not going to get what you want. Accusing them of conspiring with youtubers to give them an advantage (which LOL like they need one) is not going to get what you want. If you want to change their mind and get them to actually make changes we need to be making posts asking for MM to be put it and explaining why we want it. In as a calm and rational manner as possible. Threatening lawsuits and accusing them of conspiracies will just land you in the "pissed off kid" category of user feedback and most likely have any substantive argument you may have presented ignored.
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    Originally Posted by Krombopuluos Go to original post
    Lemme first say I agree with the overwhelming sentiment that MM should be an option for the raid. I think forcing players to find their own groups, while it does have some redeeming qualities when it comes to community building, is overall a bad thing for the game.

    That said, y'all MFs need to calm down.

    Making rage posts calling the devs lairs and threatening lawsuits is not going to get what you want. Accusing them of conspiring with youtubers to give them an advantage (which LOL like they need one) is not going to get what you want. If you want to change their mind and get them to actually make changes we need to be making posts asking for MM to be put it and explaining why we want it. In as a calm and rational manner as possible. Threatening lawsuits and accusing them of conspiracies will just land you in the "pissed off kid" category of user feedback and most likely have any substantive argument you may have presented ignored.
    The developers did lie. The advertisement for the online play for the game said "matchmaking for all activities on all difficulties". So that is false advertising. Which is illegal. The developers have also proven to be completely incompetent at their jobs to the point of hilarity so I think people understand the only way to get across to these morons is to make a bunch of noise
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    But they keep lying though... lol that’s a liar

    And then they could’ve told people from the get go the raid plan was no matchmaking, but they wait 2 days before it releases ... 😂

    My rage at the state of pvp and the dz has dwindled some, I accept that this game won’t be the game for those activities anymore. So I can laugh at my misery, but they just struck a huge blow to the core audience they made this game for, the pve player:

    RIP
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    they lied
    that is THE WHOLE POINT
    they DID advertise there are MM for all activities and then suddenly an incompetent person working in Massive decided to screw it and betray us
    that is ILLEGAL. Atleast in UK, Cananda and Australia
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    Originally Posted by GlockPackinMofo Go to original post
    The developers did lie. The advertisement for the online play for the game said "matchmaking for all activities on all difficulties". So that is false advertising. Which is illegal. The developers have also proven to be completely incompetent at their jobs to the point of hilarity so I think people understand the only way to get across to these morons is to make a bunch of noise
    im almost sure they must hire Todd from Bethesda for this move :-D
    it sounds like his things ..strongly remind me F76 presentation on E3 and then reality, when they release that crap
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    they lied
    that is THE WHOLE POINT
    they DID advertise there are MM for all activities and then suddenly an incompetent person working in Massive decided to screw it and betray us
    Maybe, you don't know that unless you work in the Division 2 dev team. It could have been a miscommunication, maybe at the time that the image promising MM for all activities they where planning to put it in for the raid then changed their mind at a later date, maybe it's just incompetence, or it could have been an outright malicious lie.

    All I'm saying is that regardless of how it came about all we can do now is try to move forward with convincing them to add in MM for the raid. My point is that we are more likely to have our opinions and suggestions taken seriously if we present them with a bit less vitriol. I mean really, talking about betrayal? LMAO come on, it's not like they stuck a knife in our back, they didn't deliver on one aspect of a video game, let's try and have a little bit of perspective here.
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    Originally Posted by Krombopuluos Go to original post
    Maybe, you don't know that unless you work in the Division 2 dev team. It could have been a miscommunication, maybe at the time that the image promising MM for all activities they where planning to put it in for the raid then changed their mind at a later date, maybe it's just incompetence, or it could have been an outright malicious lie.

    All I'm saying is that regardless of how it came about all we can do now is try to move forward with convincing them to add in MM for the raid. My point is that we are more likely to have our opinions and suggestions taken seriously if we present them with a bit less vitriol. I mean really, talking about betrayal? LMAO come on, it's not like they stuck a knife in our back, they didn't deliver on one aspect of a video game, let's try and have a little bit of perspective here.
    No, there is no "maybe". There are pictures of the advertisements that clearly state "matchmaking for all activities on all difficulties". The developers lied. The end. A lot of people would not have even bought this dumpster fire if they knew that was a lie. Hell a lot of people would have quit already if they announced 2 weeks ago the raid wouldn't have matchmaking. There is no defending this decision or this dev team
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    Originally Posted by Krombopuluos Go to original post
    Lemme first say I agree with the overwhelming sentiment that MM should be an option for the raid. I think forcing players to find their own groups, while it does have some redeeming qualities when it comes to community building, is overall a bad thing for the game.

    That said, y'all MFs need to calm down.

    Making rage posts calling the devs lairs and threatening lawsuits is not going to get what you want. Accusing them of conspiring with youtubers to give them an advantage (which LOL like they need one) is not going to get what you want. If you want to change their mind and get them to actually make changes we need to be making posts asking for MM to be put it and explaining why we want it. In as a calm and rational manner as possible. Threatening lawsuits and accusing them of conspiracies will just land you in the "pissed off kid" category of user feedback and most likely have any substantive argument you may have presented ignored.
    Thier concerns are valid. Ubi lied simple as that. If you like to get screwed that fine for you. But don't act like these concerns are not valid, they are very valid Let the boycott come and let it gut this mess like ubi guts the players.
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    But don't act like these concerns are not valid,
    Never did. Hell the very first thing I said was that I agree that it should be added.

    All I'm saying is the tone and temperament with which we give feedback matters. If you go about it foaming at the mouth, throwing accusations and curses everywhere then you will probably get ignored as someone having a tantrum. You will have a much better chance of having your opinions considered if you go about it like civilized human beings.
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    Originally Posted by Krombopuluos Go to original post
    Never did. Hell the very first thing I said was that I agree that it should be added.

    All I'm saying is the tone and temperament with which we give feedback matters. If you go about it foaming at the mouth, throwing accusations and curses everywhere then you will probably get ignored as someone having a tantrum. You will have a much better chance of having your opinions considered if you go about it like civilized human beings.
    Look at the forums. They can't ignore their mistake on this one. They reverted the 515 gs change because pve players were in an outrage, the raid was pve endgame and they just illegally gated it
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