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  1. #21
    You give them too much credit. They only nerf when streamers say to nerf. If streamers feel Matchmaking is needed for the raid? Guess what..they will add it. Has nothing to do with being "mean" it has to do with them grossly ignoring past mistakes and not really knowing what to do about anything.
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    I do not understand the reason of not adding match making for raid. Communications? Really. Get over it. Random group will fail in the beginning but will adapt and eventually will succeed and do the raid. If that will not work..will quit doing it. However locking this under the excuse of "virtual" friend is the ****tiest thing ever.
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  3. #23
    Originally Posted by JHemp12 Go to original post
    The reason the raid will not have matchmaking is because Raids require communication and coordination on a level that you will never achieve in a random matchmade group.

    I'm one of those people who will not be able to experience the raid without matchmaking because I don't have 8 friends to play with either.
    so this is an assumption based on hearsay? not fact or even informed personal opinion?
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    So no Raids for me.

    In my clan there are only 2 - 3 player of 50 online at the same time.

    No one use clan chat.

    I'm not willing to use 3rd party sites to met people to play with. That's a crappy idea.
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  5. #25
    Originally Posted by SGTR0CK117 Go to original post
    I dont get it, its a tactical shooter
    No, it's not. Absolutely. Ghost Recon or Rainbow Six are tactical shooters. The Division is a loot shooter with "rpg" elements. No tactics at all here, and with RAID will be the same. If you need tactics to play this game, you have a problem.
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    Originally Posted by JHemp12 Go to original post
    You clearly didn't read past the first sentence in my post if you think i'm a Ubi fanboi...Yes raids require communication and coordination. Literally every raid encounter in Destiny requires you to memorize and call out 1 to 3 symbols then go stand on the stupid symbol. One of the fights even requires you to split into groups of 3 and toss a ball around in a circle without holding onto it for too long, while also killing mobs, then going up into space, looking at symbols, memorize symbols, call out symbols, throw ball at symbol, god I hate Destiny raids lol. Anyways, you get it. Tons of communication. It's not just shooting ****.
    Still Destiny has LFG..and I am a solo player and done Destiny 2 all raids number of times through that app..This is just gating a content only for clans which is ******** IMO..
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  7. #27
    Come on Guys its not going to be a D2 raid !
    12hrs stuck on a door jobbie
    It will be looking for a few wires shooting a few fuse box's at the same time to open box's in the 2x4 squad part
    Like the shooting the rockets on TB under 34 sec .......
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    Not sure I understand the mentality of not having matchmaking or difficulty levels. Because if the raid doesn't I'd have matchmaking and difficulty levels then the most expensive content in the game will be pretty much for a few elite. The vast majority of players will be left wondering "where's the new stuff to keep me interested?".

    There needs to be matchmaking and difficulty levels, without it the content will be irrelevant to the majority of players. And that means the devs will need to do more work to satisfy the majority of their player base. I can't see it. It doesn't mean the hardest difficulties won't be for the hardcore, I just can't see a reason why they would gate content to less than 10% of their player base exclusively.

    What I can see is the difficulties being gated to gearscore, since this is what has happened with the strongholds and world tiers.
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  9. #29
    Originally Posted by uhuriger Go to original post
    Exactly the Raids in Destiny needed comunication. Without it wasent possible at all to finish it. And yes the social aspect is very importend as well its frustrating if u have someone in the session who permanently freaking out because the team gets wiped cause noone knows the machanics.
    My first KF ever finish was with randoms with no mic.

    My raid team in the last year of D1 and the first D2 raid consisted of a deaf person and a person who refused to use a mic.

    We never had issues.

    (Fyi...I also sherpa'd for two years....so)
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  10. #30
    Originally Posted by JHemp12 Go to original post
    The reason the raid will not have matchmaking is because Raids require communication and coordination on a level that you will never achieve in a random matchmade group.
    I gave up after your first sentence, you seem to be defining the word elitist.

    I have cleared many things in many games with random matchmade groups, it should be an option. You seem to be implying that people who matchmake are unable to communicate on your "level".

    I wish I was intelligent like you.
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