Question about For Honors loot boxes. | Forums

[LightUpTheEyes]

In America there is a bill that may or may not get passed that will ban loot boxes. I'm just curious if Ubisoft has any ideas of how they're gonna proceed if the bill ends up banning loot boxes.

[Vakris_One]

For Honor doesn't have anything that can be deemed manipulative or pay to win about their cosmetic loot so Ubisoft has nothing to sweat over.

It's companies like EA, Activision/Blizzard and the mobile games industry that will have a lot to be worried about over this legislation.

[Hormly]

Is for honor rated M? If so it might be exempt. I believe it's games that target children that are most likely to be targeted

[LightUpTheEyes]

For Honor doesn't have anything that can be deemed manipulative or pay to win about their cosmetic loot so Ubisoft has nothing to sweat over.

It's companies like EA, Activision/Blizzard and the mobile games industry that will have a lot to be worried about over this legislation.

Pretty sure the bill is about being able to spend real money for a random outcome being considered gambling or not. Which For Honor definitely has that with its gear.

[MrB3NX]

games that claim are made for children / teens will pay a painful price for adding gambling into their underage audience

games like For Honor which rated for Mature players are not included because the law allows adults to gamble .

[Klingentaenz3r]

Pretty sure the bill is about being able to spend real money for a random outcome being considered gambling or not. Which For Honor definitely has that with its gear.

I think not. There is so little incentive on the lootboxes that it is not quite fitting. Boxes can also be bought with ingame currency. That bill ought to be targeting those concept like in CSGO where you have to pay about 2,30 EUR for a key to open them and then have the effect of a slot machine displayed with extremely low chances to get a skin of a rarer tier. People spend thousands of dollers/euros and easily become addicted - especially since a lot of generations are prone to incentives and tend wanting everything that is new and shiny just to feel more special about themselves. Pitiful individuals but they have to be protected.

For Honor does not even come close to that. Although they surely target these kind of audiences with full intend at the moment a event drops or a new season begins (they toss out executions first, then some new shiny skins and effects and then sth else, like a new hero just to have it more likely that someone burnt through their steal and sees the need to put some real money in to get those stuff in time).

[LightUpTheEyes]

I think not. There is so little incentive on the lootboxes that it is not quite fitting. Boxes can also be bought with ingame currency. That bill ought to be targeting those concept like in CSGO where you have to pay about 2,30 EUR for a key to open them and then have the effect of a slot machine displayed with extremely low chances to get a skin of a rarer tier. People spend thousands of dollers/euros and easily become addicted - especially since a lot of generations are prone to incentives and tend wanting everything that is new and shiny just to feel more special about themselves. Pitiful individuals but they have to be protected.

For Honor does not even come close to that. Although they surely target these kind of audiences with full intend at the moment a event drops or a new season begins (they toss out executions first, then some new shiny skins and effects and then sth else, like a new hero just to have it more likely that someone burnt through their steal and sees the need to put some real money in to get those stuff in time).

I will admit that for honors' loot box (scavenger crates) are not bad compared to other companies. However, it is still a loot box at the end of the day. A premium scavenger crate costs about 50¢ for a slot machine type random outcome. If the bill passes, this would fall under the category of gambling and for Honor will have to slap a big Ao on their esrb rating if they want them to remain in the game.

I'm just curious if they've thought any about this and if they're making any preemptive steps just in case because it will be and they'd have to remove them.

Again, all of this is hypothetical at the moment until we find out if the bill passes. Which in my opinion I hope it does pass.

[The_B0G_]

I've personally never felt the NEED to buy any microtransaction in any Ubisoft game, they have a pretty good balance when it comes to them. I only ever bought champion status and a couple steel packs on For Honor, and I did that just as a luxury and because I legitimately wanted to support the game since I've played from open beta, I didn't feel like I needed to.

Games like GTA and RDR2, Battlefront 2 and Fortnite style games are the worst for this, and you can lump every single mobile phone game in with those as well lol

[LightUpTheEyes]

I've personally never felt the NEED to buy any microtransaction in any Ubisoft game, they have a pretty good balance when it comes to them. I only ever bought champion status and a couple steel packs on For Honor, and I did that just as a luxury and because I legitimately wanted to support the game since I've played from open beta, I didn't feel like I needed to.

Games like GTA and RDR2, Battlefront 2 and Fortnite style games are the worst for this, and you can lump every single mobile phone game in with those as well lol

I agree 💯, please everyone don't misunderstand this thread. I'm not complaining about them because Ubisoft has integrated them pretty fair as far as microtransactions go. Just wanted to bring the situation to their attention since they're based in Canada and not the USA.

[Illyrian_King]

In all honesty, I was always for a good and fleshed-out forging/crafting system.

Even if I pay the same amount of steel in the end like for lootboxes, I would still prefer it to have controll. I hate this randomized boxes in every game.