Started with 810 bullets, L1, WT5, still 810, | Forums

[xcel30]

Never had any ammo issue, honestly raising the maximum ammo cap is counter intuitive since it measn you are okay with enemis taking 100 rounds to the head

[dms5E]

I run two load outs my main one is AR and rifle my secondary one is SMG and LMG. When I’m roaming around doing different activities I use LMG and SMG but when I do missions, bounties, and CPs I use my AR load out. I never have an ammo problem using two load outs.

[yamxt6002016]

From my understanding of the update that's coming out a couple things

1) Fill'er Up - Will draw from your reserves, so it is no longer an unlimited ammo option
2) Enemies will drop more ammo

Personally, I run AR and Chatterbox. When I do run out, I back up into cover and swap to an LMG or Rifle that I have kept modded and ready to go with the right talents that sync to my build. CP4s are definitely a drain on ammo, but still can be done. As soon as the assault phase is over, I will high-tail it into the control point to grab ammo and I'll usually have enough for the defense phase. There's also small ammo holster talents + specialization talents that will regenerate ammo. Not a lot, but sometimes an extra 2 or 3 clips helps you get through the engagement.

Also take note of critical range / optimal range on your weapon. Don't use AR to try and snipe 100m out when your DPS dropoff is significant. You want the best bang for your buck for every bullet used so strategically plan for distances and when to use what weapon.

What you post is good common sense play, I have the same back up.

But I was just clearing a Broadcast, but on the way, ran into a patrol and a yellow mini gun boss, clear the Broadcast but now have 198 ammo left on the AR, what can you do with that.

Not much work but low on reserve ammo to take on anything else. I play the game to take out the enemy, not to travel for reserves of ammo every 10 minutes play.

Not one of the 4 in the patrol, the Boss, or the 3 waves, 12 npc’s dropped any ammo.

None of my enemies ever run out of ammo.

[Airjarhead]

I don't understand why anyone would have a problem with the ammo count increasing?!!? What in the f is wrong with you people? Stop blaming the players for the problems in this game!
You are acting like it would ruin the integrity of the game or something. It makes ZERO sense to argue against more ammo.

For the record - NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT HAVING AMMO ISSUES IN MISSIONS!!!!!!
Does anyone read?

The OP is exactly right.
The big problem:
At lvl 1 we have 810 rounds
In WT5 it takes a lot more bullets to kill an enemy, yet we still only have 810 rounds

Take down two side missions (Propaganda broadcast, territory control, execution, etc), then try to take down an CP3 or 4...I ALWAYS RUN OUT OF PRIMARY AMMO! I'm NOT missing shots either (I've recorded my gameplay, and I'm hitting at least 90% of my shots).
Almost every other game I have played lets you pick up ammo from all the fallen enemies...it makes no sense that you can't in this game.

[yamxt6002016]

Yah, that's why I said in the update the npcs will drop more ammo, so your out-of-ammo situation is going to improve post-patch.

You can modify your build so your skills can provide some DPS and you dont need to rely on your gun so much. Or stack more DPS modifiers / talents so you don't have to use more bullets. Or just use everything the game gives you like the rest of us are doing to preserve ammo. Pistols also pretty powerful in this game compared to D1, and I'll swap to them to finish off low enemies. Lots of options and possibilities, just need to use them and find out what works best for you.

Your point on using the pistol is a good one that does get forgotten about. Will put that in the memory bank and use that to conserve ammo.

It would be great to get more drops, see that is an INCREASE in ammo via supply, some of the Saints on here will not be picking those up though as they do not need the ammo and are brilliant enough to survive with out that.

I do not get why so many are opposed to having a bit more ammo than 810 in an AR, given where we started and the level at WT5. One of the issues is you run into patrols on every street corner when going to a CP, TC, Broadcast, Hostage or PE. Do an extended one of those and you will use a large percentage of your ammo.

If it is a CP and you take it over you can get ammo, but the others unless someone drops ammo you are out of luck. Return to a safe house to get grenades topped up or the BOO for rocket propelled grenades.
This is a tedious system, particularly if working an area away from a checkpoint, be prepared for another long march, perhaps multiple patrol fights as you go. It is possible you run out of primary ammo trying to return to where you were.

[Steppia]

I've got problems with the AR only when I used M4, M4 + chatterbox even worse, but if you use a P416 you have enough ammo most of the time. The next patch they are going to drop more ammo when you are low

[MutantCowboy x]

Here is the issue with ammo.... it should be a build choice not a build given. They should have never started with the amount of ammo we have, they should have started around 400 and then added Red stats that boost ammo by 20-40%. Skill builds need to make annoying choices why is DPS given handouts.

I loved the need to switch out weapons in the first game, and guess what low ammo also did. It helped prevent the abuse of one single meta weapon all day long. It gave 2pc lonestar an actual role in gear building. It made talents that gave ammo for pistol kills, skill kills, and head shot returns important. After they just handed out more and more candy we got the AB meta and lonestar/banshee died. Which led to the Striker/Nomad never ending House spam metas many of us still curse even now. If you don't understand how specific aspects of the game lead to bad situations..... you should just call yourself a division developer

[Gulch69]

None of my enemies ever run out of ammo.

Ok, use your brain here.
Why do you think that is?