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    Operation Oracle: Was Bowman the Target

    So there is a point in the convo between Walker and Nomad when Walker says,
    Look I could blow sunshine up you @$$ all day but I'll spare you. Bowman. She is my real target.
    So was she or wasn't she? I mean if he had orders from Mitchell to take her out, why is she still breathing? As he got to Bowman before Nomad did, she should have been a body on the floor. He's already lost two of his ghost team attempting to carry out his mission, I don't see him just saying, "Nah, nevermind, since you have feels for Bowman, Nomad, I'll not complete my mission and thus cost more lives."
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    What if Walker is stating what "his" real target happens to be, given he's lost two of his men. Given it's a game world, of course Ubi can play it anyway they wish, but isn't it an assumption that Walker would be going after Bowman due to orders from Mitchell?

    In the second mission Walker does assure Nomad that he's not going to do anything regarding Bowman when they're searching for her.
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    Originally Posted by MikeWeeks Go to original post
    What if Walker is stating what "his" real target happens to be, given he's lost two of his men. Given it's a game world, of course Ubi can play it anyway they wish, but isn't it an assumption that Walker would be going after Bowman due to orders from Mitchell?

    In the second mission Walker does assure Nomad that he's not going to do anything regarding Bowman when they're searching for her.
    I dunno man. That was a weird line. At the very least I expected Bowman to get on that big bird in a pair of flexicuffs.
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    Originally Posted by Bone_Frog Go to original post
    I dunno man. That was a weird line. At the very least I expected Bowman to get on that big bird in a pair of flexicuffs.
    Is that after, or prior to her either shooting Sueno, or being his driver ... ??
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    Originally Posted by MikeWeeks Go to original post
    Is that after, or prior to her either shooting Sueno, or being his driver ... ??
    LOL... Yeah Ubisoft story writing. I take it that these missions(Watchman, Archangel, Silent Spade, and Oracle) all happen within timeline of original campaign. Bowman than either goes to jail or becomes Sueno's driver and we get rotated home. Then we are redeployed to Bolivia where a Merc group has essentially taken over the country, and Bowman is again calling the shots... At least until we get shot down and then manage to topple a military junta with minimal support.

    Now sometime after that or before or both oracle happens which leads to whatever is going down tonight...

    Yet that isn't a confusing timeline at all.

    Alternately Ubisoft doesn't care about time line at all, and is just worried about putting out good game experiences.
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    It actually feels weird doing these add-on missions with a character which has completed the campaign - why are we still in-county again ???

    This next "installment" is going to be interesting no doubt.
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    Originally Posted by MikeWeeks Go to original post
    It actually feels weird doing these add-on missions with a character which has completed the campaign - why are we still in-county again ???

    This next "installment" is going to be interesting no doubt.
    Basically it took a while until the point of time where we get extracted out in the beginning of Fallen Ghosts. As stated, LE was formed of ex SB, Unidad, and even civilians up in arms against foreign agents intervention.

    So we can say our Ghosts really spend some time in Bolivia for whatever they're doing in the 'background'.
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    Originally Posted by Kane_sg Go to original post
    Basically it took a while until the point of time where we get extracted out in the beginning of Fallen Ghosts. As stated, LE was formed of ex SB, Unidad, and even civilians up in arms against foreign agents intervention.

    So we can say our Ghosts really spend some time in Bolivia for whatever they're doing in the 'background'.
    Go back and watch the beginning of Fallen ghosts again. We weren't being extracted. We were being inserted.

    Bowman states at the very beginning
    You are going back into Bolivia
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    Originally Posted by Bone_Frog Go to original post
    I take it that these missions(Watchman, Archangel, Silent Spade, and Oracle) all happen within timeline of original campaign.
    They do. In Archangel, Dengoso hints quite at having info on Sueno's location that he refuses to reveal, leading to that wonderfly tense standoff between Bowman and Nomad and the Rainbow operators. If Sueno were already out of play, any info he had would serve no purpose.

    Bowman than either goes to jail or becomes Sueno's driver and we get rotated home. Then we are redeployed to Bolivia where a Merc group has essentially taken over the country, and Bowman is again calling the shots... At least until we get shot down and then manage to topple a military junta with minimal support.
    Considering she reappears in voice form at the end of FG, I think it's safe to say the ending in which she took Sueno in is the canon one.
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    Originally Posted by Ghost416 Go to original post
    They do. In Archangel, Dengoso hints quite at having info on Sueno's location that he refuses to reveal, leading to that wonderfly tense standoff between Bowman and Nomad and the Rainbow operators. If Sueno were already out of play, any info he had would serve no purpose.


    Considering she reappears in voice form at the end of FG, I think it's safe to say the ending in which she took Sueno in is the canon one.
    In fairness, if there are no body cams, and she popped him, as he was armed, she wouldn't go to jail. Get reassigned maybe. Left in place in a backwater post, also a possibility. Sell out to Skell Tech, would be the first CIA person to double dip.
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