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What have all the the Raider threads become? Some people enjoy the rework, Many dont enjoy it. There are those who want to focus on the balance as well. How is ubi supposed to take the threads seriously for those who want him balanced and those who dont? Most of the threads made about him have turned into heated personal attacks by both the raider side of it and those who dont like the Raider rework. If people want to get through to Ubi then I think that the threads need to reflect the balance talk or else it just looks like a bunch of squabbling children calling each other names.
1. I think the moderators and devs would be more willing to jump into the raider threads if they weren't just head hunting and people attacking each other over personal opinions.
2. What incentive is there for Ubi to even watch the threads if all their going to see is name calling and trashing Ubi. I understand they were the ones who put him in but why would they care to even look if they are just going to be attacked personally by players. In the end they are a business and people in business are more willing to work with customers if they aren't being hostile. We as the players are the customers and they provide a product that we payed for so Criticism is legitimate so long as its not personal. People saying that devs who worked on the rework need firing only makes the situation worse.
Before someone asks, yes I have played the new raider and enjoy playing him but it doesn't mean that I dont see that he was a bit overtuned. Im fine if they want to adjust him so long as he doesn't get nerfed into the ground.
This thread is more a rant/reaction thread to all the others since they are becoming extremely hostile. If you don't agree with what Im saying here it is completely fine since everyone is entitled to their own opinion but please the head hunting needs to stop before Ubi moderators and devs will ever take the threads and suggestions made in them seriously.
For those who see this thanks for taking the time to read and feel free to leave your thoughts so long as its constructive.
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My dude, spamming the forum and reddit is the only way we can show them, that we are not happy with this round of reworks. This time it feels like they played with numbers and didn't test them at all.
Lawbringer got completely spitted and Raider got out of controll.
Thb I am glad, that people aren't calming down, maybe really something happens ;b
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Haha Fair enough about the spamming the forums but I don't think the attacks that were seeing in the forums towards the players is helping the case. The only response I saw in the huge "raider rework is broken" thread that came from the moderators was to "Stop the flaming". More than fine with the spamming the forums to get attention but the Hostility probably isn't impressing them much. they might just shut down a thread if it gets too bad and then that thread becomes worthless.Originally Posted by Illyrian_King Go to original post
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I personally enjoy fighting the new raider even if it can be annoying at times but I can understand where some dont like it. Yeah it kinda felt like lawbringer got shafted a bit for having to wait so long for his rework.Originally Posted by David_gorda Go to original post
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No playing against him is indeed not fun. He is not OP, he is literally BROKEN right now. I faced 3 matches today with 4 Raiders on the enemy team, and I even saw a tier list on Youtube, where they placed him on 1st place of S-tier for this Season. He is definitely not fun to play against.Originally Posted by David_gorda Go to original post
Lawbringer in the other hand just got a hand full of dollars to buy a new home ;b
Of course they ask us to stop flamming, but it is still a virtual form of rioting. If you just do it for long enough, they HAVE to acknowledge us at some point.Originally Posted by DaytimeRaider Go to original post
If they shut down a thread, you simply open a new one ^^
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Yeah I guess Opening a new one and keeping the attention on it will help. I just lost hope that they would re balance reworks since the beserker rework. Many were up in arms at that time asking them to balance that new rework but nothing ever came of it. If they balance this rework then kudos and you were right I just hope that within all this they come around to balancing Beserker. He was the first "OP" reworkin my personal opinion and this raider one at least brings a competitor to fighting beserker at a casual level. Im more than happy if they do some changes to raider so long as some come to beserker so that "S" tier state that he's in might not exist anymore. I personally don't think that S Tier character level helps this game much.
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Yeah people really shouted a lot about Zerk and they didn't touch him at all ^^Originally Posted by DaytimeRaider Go to original post
In the other hand if you look at Breach ... they really made it only hearing Community feedback. Everything I see in Breach was also written somewhere in the forum or on reddit. That makes me hope they listen sometimes.
I think everybody should be somewhere between high A and bottom S tier. S-tier mostly means broken for some strange reasons
But what I mean is just very effective, but not cockbusting (if you understand what I mean).
It should definitely not go under high A, since we already had that state of the game in the beginning, where nothing was effective beside camping for parries.
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Haha yeah I understand what you mean. Raider is a bit to handle at the moment with his great ability to apply pressure. I find it fun to fight him now just because you have to be more on your toes when facing him and usually Im playing raider so it balances outbut I can definitely understand that his damage and stunning tap needs toned down. I still tend to face a lot off shinobi's that like to parry camp or wait for a deflect opportunity but that has gotten way better.
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This forum rarely ever bears any fruitful discussion. The Raider outburst is merely another thing for people to latch onto and complain about. If it wasn't this it would be complaints about LB's rework. Or how the new hero every season is always OP. Or more nonsense from people who don't actually understand the game making suggestions to fundementally change the game. The only real productive of the forum's here is for the devs to temp gauge something. Or to report bugs.
