How much longer do we have to wait until you make Vortiger fun/fair? | Forums

[Dominikhale]

Just make it so he can't light right after he misses a shield bash, make it if he misses a shield bash he can get guard broken, just like every other shield hero
Why is he the exception to the rule, there's no reason for it

[Knight_Raime]

He can't light attack immediately after he misses any of his bashes except for his zone attack. And that is done on purpose because it's so incredibly slow and has a large window to GB interrupt.
His dash forward bash is stupidly easy to dodge as well because it has zero range unless you delay it and it has a massive window for you to dodge it. It shouldn't be easily punishable. afaik most dodge attacks should be able to punish it now though because they nerfed it's recovery by 200ms with the latest patch.

The only bash in his kit that is fundementally a problem is his bash after light. This is because it's guaranteed if you switched your guard late to attempt to block the light. And because the link time is incredibly short the bash is pretty easy to land most of the time. It invalidates his other in chain mix up. And thus it should have a longer recovery time on whiff so GB after dodge CAN punish it.

[allenhollow]

never

[The_B0G_]

So many hero's seem OP now that I don't even care about nerfs any more, just use the hero you think is OP and exploit everything in his kit that you can.

I'm thinking about taking up the BP myself.

[SpaceJim12]

The only way BP could spam you with bush/light is while you're OOS. So...watch your stamina. Well, if you LB...don't watch it. Just suffer.=)

[Goat_of_Vermund]

LB can actually punish all his bashes, including the light-bash. He is no longer vulnerable against bash attacks.

[UbiInsulin]

He can't light attack immediately after he misses any of his bashes except for his zone attack. And that is done on purpose because it's so incredibly slow and has a large window to GB interrupt.
His dash forward bash is stupidly easy to dodge as well because it has zero range unless you delay it and it has a massive window for you to dodge it. It shouldn't be easily punishable. afaik most dodge attacks should be able to punish it now though because they nerfed it's recovery by 200ms with the latest patch.

The only bash in his kit that is fundementally a problem is his bash after light. This is because it's guaranteed if you switched your guard late to attempt to block the light. And because the link time is incredibly short the bash is pretty easy to land most of the time. It invalidates his other in chain mix up. And thus it should have a longer recovery time on whiff so GB after dodge CAN punish it.

I've pretty much sent exactly this suggestion (in the second paragraph) along for consideration.

I don't presently have any update on BP, but I'm sure he's being monitored.