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  1. #11
    Originally Posted by TG24915193 Go to original post
    I just watched a live stream of a group doing this and honestly, they were abysmal. I hate to be critical as its easy to do watching a video but there were some glaring issues for me:

    Just on the final battle

    1. Going over the wall. The guy streaming spends about 30 seconds looking for somewhere to place his turret. As a result he does nothing to deal with the suicide bombers and almost dies. He got lucky.
    2. The M60. The M60 is not designed for CQB, yet this guy is running around in the open trying to hit targets at point blank range whilst his finger is never off the trigger. The amount of misses. Must have been 75%.
    3. Use of cover. He just didn't. Even when he was behind physical cover he wasnt 'in cover' and again he just stood their, finger on trigger, until reload. Worse, he stood in the open, trying to head shot the guy on the mini gun with an M60 with NO additional stabilisation.
    4. Skills. Aside from using the chem launcher as healing which we wont go in to here, he was using the turret, but he would throw it against objects on the ground and it would be completely useless. He made no attempt to reset it, he didnt set it to flame thrower for the final stage after the tanks were blown.
    5. Special weapon: Using grenade launcher on fuel tanks once all enemies are dead. Though he did attempt 1 grenade at the mini gun at the start.

    Watching these guys play, if all those saying its hard are playing like this. ITS YOU. Its not the game.
    I actually like the M60 for NPC's that get close to me, it will make them back off, works great on Tidal heroic if I'm up near the highest launcher waiting to disarm it and NPC's get behind me.

    I wont run about with it though, just use it for heavies, the warlords sometimes and the above I wrote.
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  2. #12
    I beat it, first attempt with clan members and a random. If most of us got reviver, revive eachother, two on left, two on right, back eachother up, use fire turrets / bombs. It's easy. And have lot of DTE.
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  3. #13
    Insane number of heavies in the challenging one I just did with a random 4 group. Loads during the mission, 4 on the last part, 4 on the boss part, and pretty much one on each part, two on some parts. Never seen that many before.

    Having said that we did it first time and the only problem was fire which seems to be lethal today and I didn't have a down on the final part at all. But I was the only one to have a total wipe one time.

    Still a lot easier than pre patch even with loads more heavies and more NPC's
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  4. #14
    There is a spot on the map where the enemies tend to run right past you. This is a great place for a turret and also chucking incendiaries at the location that they spawn. There is a long cover area made of boards and pipes that when your behind it, they cannot see you. It is excellent for the opening mobs, the mobs after the first tank is blown, but not after the second tank is destroyed (you're basically on the new spawn area).

    So, the location is, the long plank / pipe cover on the right hand side just past the minigun tower. I tend to run straight there as soon as the action starts. You are also laying down cover for anyone using that minigun tower and are in a position to kill the boat gunner without him being able to shoot you.

    If you do 2 players left (on the long cover at the back near the truck minigun) and 2 to the right (one on the long plank / pipe cover and one on the minigun), you can easily take out all the mobs. Then destroy the right hand tank, clear all mobs and then all players head to left near the minigun truck and drop left tank... then turret and bombard the mobs coming from the boat, clean up the spawn behind you (near the long cover) and take out anything left coming from the right. Destroy hatch, blow boat...

    So long as the team knows what they are doing, you can do this all day long!
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  5. #15
    The game is definitely harder today. I'm in the, its getting easy group normally , but Tidal on Heroic in a 4 group today was mental. Great fun but totally insane to how it normally is . Someone has hit the NPC boost button for the day
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    There's a couple of threads on this and the feedback's pretty mixed in both. Thanks to those offering tips to help others get through it!
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  7. #17
    Yep, this mission on challenging needs tweaking. I would start with the armor on the heavies, its bad enough they bum rush you, pushing your entire team back but on the last part, there is no where to be pushed back to. One blow from the sledge should not strip off 240k of armor either.
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    Originally Posted by UbiInsulin Go to original post
    There's a couple of threads on this and the feedback's pretty mixed in both. Thanks to those offering tips to help others get through it!
    Ever considered that those who normally group up to complete the mission are matchmaking with newbies because the hardcore players and core audience have left the game?

    If this is what is left in the game no wonder it seems more difficult as players are no longer being carried or are having to carry deadweight.

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  9. #19
    Originally Posted by SuspiciousPixel Go to original post
    Ever considered that those who normally group up to complete the mission are matchmaking with newbies because the hardcore players and core audience have left the game?

    If this is what is left in the game no wonder it seems more difficult as players are no longer being carried or are having to carry deadweight.

    Except that teams have been wiping on that map since the beginning. Have you ever considered that your opinion of your own or others' skill might be overinflated.
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  10. #20
    Well since it was the daily yesterday I made an attempt to try this again on challenging with randoms. As I stated earlier I had failed to do this with randoms 2 other times.
    Yesterday I completed the mission without any issues thanks to having good team. Guess this mission is very dependent on a skilled teams to complete unlike the other missions where you can get by with a weaker team.
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