I am not talking about builds that exploit the META ( those builds make the game too easy and the DEVs are beginning to nerf them )
I am talking about, picking a gun you enjoy shooting and then picking 2 skills you enjoy using.
Those builds are extremely difficult.
I enjoy using a shield / sawed off double barrel, with drone …
trying to get enough skill power to fit in mods and skills on gear for damage
Try doing something YOU like instead of copying some 'tubers' Meta build and you will understand ( unless copying is what you enjoy )
First off
What level are you at?
What world tier are you?
Secondly
I don't do Meta's never have and never will, I don't need any youtuber to teach me how to play and what to build for me.
Next Pick a gun and 2 skills I like. I have on my first build which is not a Crit 11/4/4 or what ever build. with a vector or LMG or P416 or MK17 (mine is an 8/8/4)
Sharpshooter spec
Gun 1886 back up SIG716CQB skills Assault turret and assault drone or healer drone
Outcome solo CP3' and 4's and all challenge content (that's what iv'e built for)
Second build
Survivalist with 5/9/6
Gun AK-M (30 round mag) or Classic FAL back up SPAS-12 (skills healer seeker and assault/flame turret)
Outcome as above all challenge content solo.
PS: none of my builds have the meta talents (Safeguard/Clutch/Persistence/Bersek/unstoppable force et-al)
Yes skills are screwed atm and skill builds are pointless to a degree (which hopefully will be rectified soon)
So wouldn't it be a good idea to give more info then people in here might be able to help you somewhere.
i use a 90-100% hazard protection build, with ar and lmg and even the old challanging content was feeling good, not easy but a challeng possible to overcome in regular play
i only have 17% dmg to elite, i have no real offensive talents, only devestating, i have 10red and 9blue, ~30chc/chd, 200k armor 80k health
so no berserk, no clutch, no strained, no unstoppable force, no strained/optimised, no onthe ropes, no other "meta" talents im aware of
if you ever saw such a build on youtube i would like a link and get some different opinion on this
you just picked the worst primary gun with the worst skill and expect to be good, in a truely good balanced game this would be possible but sadly we are not there yet
its unfortunate for shotgun/pistol enthusiast but thats where we are
sadly no offensive skills are really good atm, some are workable but non is tuely great, but in pts massiv is trying to make them better, though not much succes so far
if you use any gun but shotguns or pistols as main you can make a build that is good enough for challenging content, you can use skills for support, but going skill only seems rather unrewarding atm, not undoable but harder then hybrid or gun primary/only
so yes we need improvement for the game, better skills, better balance for shotguns, and more but not all hope is lost as massiv atleast trys and has not given up yet
What it comes down to is your playstyle, some content might be more "challenging" when running wierd setups like yours.Originally Posted by Mykghoul_ Go to original post
Need a little more info on your level and build bud. Playing what we find subjectively fun, should indeed be fun, but what level you're playing at, which enemies you're trying to take on are all relative.
I'd also recommend taking adv of the 5 loadout slots we can use. Make a fun build you can switch to when the time is right, and a serious AR build to use in harder situations, etc.
I currently have a LMG, SMG, AR, Rifle and "Beefy" build. I switch between them all depending on what works best for what I'm doing and to also keep things fresh and different from time to time.