I haven't played Division 2 in about a week now, as it seems to have got to that point now where it's boring and there's not much to do plus almost all of my friends have stopped playing (I really don't see why they didn't add End Of Mission Stats at least- GG)
Anyway, last week in the DZ, I noticed the players in the DZ that were forming groups ganking or just running around initiating and "PvP'ing" players that didn't stand a chance, all had one thing in common.
They all had that exotic SMG Chatterbox. ALL OF THEM!
As someone who certainly has comfortably above-average enthusiasm for this game, I still have no idea how/where to get the Chatterbox or what exactly about it that makes it so good.
So, I don't know how to get one, let alone even have a clue regarding it's effectiveness - I'd say the overwhelming majority of the playerbase doesn't either.
So now, let me reiterate. These small minority of players that dominate the DZ, attacking other players with their "PvP" have an overwhelming advantage to the point where it's not competitive at all. I'm pretty good myself and with decent enough gear, but do not stand a chance vs these OP builds. Imagine how bad it is for your average player? Pointless.
I'd guess at least 80-90% of the players aren't going to spend hours farming and watch YouTube vids for the latest OP builds.
EDIT: Also, let me add another observation regarding the DZ.
I've had about 4 or 5 people (Chatterboxers) send me hate mail because they were frustrated they couldn't kill me after they died from CP turret and I stayed in the protection of it.
Like, they literally get so angry and send me hate because I won't come out to engage with them in an encounter I have 0 chance of winning.
The last one was 3 guys with Chatterbox trying to kill me and one calling me a coward because they couldn't get to me.
These are the type of angry kids crying about no PvP in the DZ lol
One of the best builds currently, and I say one cause there are many, is the LMG build which puts a player down sucking dust in FOUR rounds.
And no, the Chatterbox does not feature at all in said build.
So no, the DZ will not fail for that reason.
SMG/Chatterbox users?
Now they might very well do so when I get my P416 build sorted.
I don't know how they can fix DZ. From all my experience, it's just a festering ground for the very few trolls who want to grief the many. And they'll always find ways to exploit any balances.Originally Posted by xTheCripplerx Go to original post
That's what pvp is, no matter the game. It's a place for 12yr old,Mountain Dew swillin,Slim Jim eatin kiddies to get their epeen on.Originally Posted by Umgheist Go to original post
you dont have to wait for the DZ to fail, it already has hence the changes trying to save it.Originally Posted by Umgheist Go to original post
What i really want to say is that i just came from another thread where you and others were criticizing a guy for his thread saying it was pointless and only for attention. Cant the same exact thing be said about this thread? Its pointless, you refuse to do any research on your own then come and voice your displeasure because you are getting raped in the DZ by a gun you obviously dont want as its not hard to obtain. Those players have the advantage over you because they went out and got the info and got the gun, thats totally your fault. Just like the threads about the Nemesis, i dont have it yet either but i dont have it because i didnt do my homework the first time around so now im stucj waiting on a loop that may or may not come even next week but that is totally my fault but by your standards, i should make a thread about it because i refused to try to find any info on my own.
Well I haven't played in a week, so maybe more are doing that now.Originally Posted by Goo-Goo-Man Go to original post
If these kids can acquire Chatterboxes and do these OP builds, they can and will do the same with this LMG build.
The overwhelming majority of players haven't got a clue about this stuff, nor the time and energy to implement it in their game.
A game where 1 player has such insane, non-skilled advantages over another, it really isn't PvP in essence - just a griefing practices.
So it sounds like history is repeating itself in Divsion 2 darkzone but it hasn't started yet. In division 1 darkzone the go to weapon for pvp gankers was the smg with all crit boosting stats.Originally Posted by Umgheist Go to original post
Well the 12 ppl who do DZ will be able to find themselves :POriginally Posted by xTheCripplerx Go to original post
The Chatterbox holstered perk basically gives a buff to the rate of fire of your primary weapon of choice after reloading and killing an enemy. It’s a nice buff but certainly not the game changer.
PvP minded players have builds designed to kill other human players but are generally weaker against AI.
PvE farmers usually have builds designed to destroy Npcs which makes them easy target for PvP builds and even more so if players farming are already engaged with Npcs.
If your intention is to farm efficiently, stacking DTE etc, you’re basically nerfing yourself against enemy human players whilst doing all the work clearing the landmarks to then have all your loot stolen by rogues.
I’d run a purposely built PvP build to deal with rogues or become one but then you’ll struggle if the AI get aggressive towards you if you run solo.