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    Fantasy is WAY out of balance.

    there is a reason why the vast majority of players in legendary play Fantasy... because it is so far out of balance with any other theme that the only way to consistently compete against it is to also play fantasy.

    The chicken coop nerf to slow the release of chickens was rendered meaningless since at the same time UC was broken to no longer be able to destroy the coop. That used to be the best way to counter coop.

    Fantasy has WAY too many ‘instant kill’ cards. Besides transmogrify and **** magic, there is also rogue token dwarf Clyde, and Lebard jimmy, who almost always kill multiple enemies as a warcry. That makes FIVE INSTANT-kill cards. (Sci-fi doesn’t have ANY). Then there is the Dougie/drow Kyle combo which can easily get 2 bars. ...and also the knight Ike / robin tweak combo that can also take 2 bars. Grand wizard and blood elf are WAY, WAY, WAY OP for HP. Now, they throw dragonslayer red in there to castrate any attempt to attack, and all of this has to be dealt with While the hoard of L4 chickens is swarming all over the place.

    UBI could easily pull a listing of themes used by players in legendary, and will quickly discover just how out of balance it is. It gets old fighting chickens match after match after match after match.every day.
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    Where in legendary are you playing? At 7000+ it's mystical decks as far as the eye can see... just like it was last season and every season before that since the big epic/legendary buff. Coop is still good, but weakened from before, and honestly if somebody wasted a UC on it previously I would consider it an easy match win.

    Sounds like your main complaint is the lack of an instant kill card in sci-fi, but I really don't see that as valid since that theme has plenty of other toys (exclusive access to mind control cards and almost all the poison for example).

    All this tread says to me is you have trouble handling fantasy and rather than learn how to counter these cards (don't bunch up, take care about over-extending yourself) you'd rather just see an entire theme nerfed to the ground.
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    Originally Posted by camelchasers Go to original post
    ... it's mystical decks as far as the eye can see...

    Sounds like your main complaint is the lack of an instant kill card in sci-fi....
    Agreed. From my experience its mostly Mystical + SciFi all day long, with a few exceptions of Mystical + Fantasy and some rare Mystical + Adventure. Sick and tired of going up against the nonstop stream of sexy nun randy + pope timmy + mecha timmy + cyborg kenny + zen cartman
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    I guess I'll be the unpopular opinion and agree with you here. I'm not sure why mystic has the reputation of being the OP theme when fantasy has coop, grand wizard, DSR, and BEB. I get that different themes have different strengths but mystic's was supposed to be healing and that was nerfed, while fantasy hasn't even been touched
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    Originally Posted by niccjagger Go to original post
    I guess I'll be the unpopular opinion and agree with you here. I'm not sure why mystic has the reputation of being the OP theme when fantasy has coop, grand wizard, DSR, and BEB. I get that different themes have different strengths but mystic's was supposed to be healing and that was nerfed, while fantasy hasn't even been touched
    Because Medusa & WDT are hard to deal with Mystic is OP according to all the whiners. Pretty much everyone who complains about mystic is a fantasy player. Beb is blatantly OP. 3 energy common,which at level 6 has stats comparable to level 4 epics. Lvl 6 beb has 142 attack (one shots chickens) angel Wendy at lvl 6 has 69. Beb also survives lvl 4 arrow storm before she buffs, where angel cannot. Also, medicine woman Sharon at lvl 5 has 74 attack. Like compare beb stats to any other ranged card in the game, medusa is the only one stronger...and she's a legendary....
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    Originally Posted by AdeptPopRocks Go to original post
    Because Medusa & WDT are hard to deal with Mystic is OP according to all the whiners. .
    I think you forgot a few cards, such as sexy nun randy, pope timmy, priest maxi, regen (historically OP), etc etc.

    Yet all the mystical players who play mystical + scifi (instead of mystical + fantasy) are on here "whining" about fantasy and how BEB is sooo OP
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    Originally Posted by nik_lin Go to original post
    I think you forgot a few cards, such as sexy nun randy, pope timmy, priest maxi, regen (historically OP), etc etc.

    Yet all the mystical players who play mystical + scifi (instead of mystical + fantasy) are on here "whining" about fantasy and how BEB is sooo OP
    Regen was nerfed into Oblivion ages ago, maxi is garbage, 6 ele and amazing are just as good, pope is easily nuked before warcry and is lowest dps Timmy, it's mystic not mystical. Unless we're calling them adventurous, fantastical, and scientific now.

    Compare beb to any other common, she has double their stats, even double some rare ranged units. Explain to me how that's not OP. Angel Wendy has 69 attack at lvl 6, Sharon has 74 at lvl 5, been has 142 at lvl 6, and more hp. Wendy dies to arrow storm while beb doesn't, and that's before she buffs. She has the stats of an epic ffs.
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    Maxi is garbage? Pope is easily nuked before warcry (are you some kind of ninja?!)? You're losing me here and this is turning into rant territory.

    And again, why are you trying to compare one of the best commons with some of the very worst? Of course BEB is better, and perhaps a touch too strong, but comparing her to angel wendy isn't really making any point aside from just how bad angel wendy is now.
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    Yes Maxi sucks. Nobody in Legendary uses maxi or Regen. Yes pope is easy to nuke, I do it every time I face him.

    The point is wendy is a 3 energy ranged common from the "op mystic theme". They should have fairly similar stats, much like hhc and rogue token do. But instead beb is legit double. This comparison perfectly highlights how OP beb actually is, as most common and ranged units lvl 5-6 have comparable stats to angel, not beb.
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    Originally Posted by AdeptPopRocks Go to original post
    Yes Maxi sucks. Nobody in Legendary uses maxi or Regen. Yes pope is easy to nuke, I do it every time I face him.

    The point is wendy is a 3 energy ranged common from the "op mystic theme". They should have fairly similar stats, much like hhc and rogue token do. But instead beb is legit double. This comparison perfectly highlights how OP beb actually is, as most common and ranged units lvl 5-6 have comparable stats to angel, not beb.
    But it's not. It clearly depend on the lag.
    And trust me, event when my lightning is ready, on the field, to kill the about-to-be-summoned timmy pope, it's to late for his warcry.

    And A LOT of people play Maxi in legends, even at level 6700+.

    Side from that BEB is way to op, Red warcry should be link to her level, Jimmy has become way to powerfull.
    And in mystical, TImmy, BB, Token, Cartman, and f***** Craig should be nerfed. At least.
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