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    515 DZ Fairness: If you feel you deserve the top gear go out and prove your self

    Anyone who is upset that 515 is in the DZ consider the fact that all players (PVP or PVE oriented) will have to kill NPC's at some point to collect the 515 loot in the first place.
    That means that a PVP player has to either kill a NPC or kill another player to obtain that 515 loot, in turn he can also be killed by another player and so on.

    DZ is not just PVP because if I could pull stats of what % of items extracted belong to the original looter (PVE kill) i would estimate about 80% of items are from PVE activities, and 20% are extracted from stealing loot from other players.

    80/20 is a very reasonable split for PVE/PVP in the DZ, you should still be able to extract 80% of your items in the DZ.

    If you think you deserve 515 and are able to take down the challenging landmarks in DZ why are you so scared of fighting players in PVP? If you are good at aiming, situational awareness, etc PVP should not be a threat it should be a welcomed chance to test your skills against a living human being instead of a genetic NPC.
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    Of course no one will reply to this thread

    I 100% agree with you. PVE is the most boring thing ever. Yet im forced to go do it in order to get some exotics.

    Come to pvp land you special snow flakes, get some gear. Fun fact, the raids will also drop 515+ and will ALWAYS be the best spot for highest possible GS item drops NOT the dz. As stated by the devs.

    Yet these people refuse to listen to that part and only focus on these keywords "dz, gs 515, go pvp"
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    Just to type a short response:

    Cause a lot of us don't have friends that like the DZ/PVP so we go in alone and have to fight 2-4 people on our own.

    When I go into the DZ it's just to finish the dalies, when I clear a Landmark I don't ever pick up contaminated loot cause I know that once I hit the extraction point there will be people just waiting around it (I did try to extract alone 3 trimes, every time (not even in the same session) a group of 3 or 4 once were just waiting to "have fun killing people in PVP"
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    idk what the commotion is about ; pvers will get 515 in raid, pvpers will get it in dz.


    redstorm had no right to talk about the raid and thats the only reason it wasnt mentioned

    *the pvpers are getting so cocky about this ; i would even go as far as making raid rewards superior to dz rewards
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    Nah, well just leave you all alone with your super griefer build in an empty af DZ. Or you'll get owned by someone even worse and then you'll be on here asking for more nerfs.
    Around and around we go.
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    Originally Posted by teksuo1 Go to original post
    idk what the commotion is about ; pvers will get 515 in raid, pvpers will get it in dz.


    redstorm had no right to talk about the raid and thats the only reason it wasnt mentioned

    *the pvpers are getting so cocky about this ; i would even go as far as making raid rewards superior to dz rewards
    No we won't. Its all lies.
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    From a horses mouth.
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    Originally Posted by Proffesional Go to original post
    why are you so scared of fighting players in PVP? If you are good at aiming, situational awareness, etc PVP should not be a threat it should be a welcomed chance to test your skills against a living human being instead of a genetic NPC.
    why do i have to be scared? 25 years ago i was into pvp, now i simply dont enjoy it. i used to love it, used to be exciting and get the blood pumping. now that is simply not what im looking for in my gaming.

    i find it boring dull , obvious , oh look theres a gang of 4 guys following me into the landmark , i wonder if they will rogue up when i engage the boss. ooo the thrills.

    edit- this made it sound like i was calling pvp dull and boring to be clear i meant the DZ , decent pvp happens on an even playing field and thats great im just too old.
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    Whats funny is i play the dz, but from threads on it i won't ever speak like its something difficult.
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    Originally Posted by SPECTRE_DM Go to original post
    No we won't. Its all lies.
    Sotg 29:45
    From a horses mouth.
    the horse had been informed not to talk about anything raid related isnt it obvious?
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    Go to the DZ, get some 512 items, go to the extraction point and just die and let them have my loot. Yeah...sounds like my idea fun. Nothing to be scared of, just easy loot for the gankers that all it is. Not catering to the toxic nature of the haxors/gankers that purvey the DZ, EVER. What will the gankers do once they have max 512 gear? Go right back to being toxic individuals out to ruin peoples time they have in the division as normal. Gankers first words are its not th eloot its the PVP! remember?
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