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    Mahc's Avatar Junior Member
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    So PvE players are new content for PvP players ?

    All the “DZ is empty”posts lately made you think that it was such a concern that you are trying to coheres PvE players there by offering a highest items in the game carrot to them.First off very few are going to chase into there,secondly why even put it there ? They are PvP players in a normalized to 500gs environment,why would they need 515s ?
    The only reason your putting them there is so PvE players will go in to get a bit better gear to help clear the raid or heroic content,there not gonna go there because they want too.
    Now what do you think is going to happen ? There all gonna love it and its gonna become there main focus of the game ? ....No, There gonna go in farm a bit get some contaminated loot” likely 515 will be contaminated only” and either die farming at landmark or definatly die trying to extract cause those are nothing but HEY IM OVER HERE COME GANK ME !!! Flags.PVPers get there loot they get mad and say screw it Im done and move onto another game and come back when its fixed.
    So you supplied the minority player base PvPers some short term fun and gear they don't need due to normalization by sacrificing the PvE crowd to them and possibly losing more players from feeling forced into something they don't want to do or from feeling completely disrespected that you want to use them as fodder for dedicated PvPers.
    On a side note Other than weapons and mabe mods not sure what other gear slots would really help with raid or heroics.
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    D1, rinse and repeat.
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    the raid will have the good loot. no need to pvp if you dont want to. just raid.

    wtf is with all the whining today lol.
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    Originally Posted by teksuo1 Go to original post
    wtf is with all the whining today lol.
    People clutch onto a half-assed fact and just bolt with it lol
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    The SOG broadcast says one thing about GS 515 loot. Community manager says another. Which one is correct? How do you know? I find it highly unlikely that those guys came to a SOG so misinformed on something as game changing as that. I am a software developer myself, no way in a million years would someone on our team make a mistake of that magnitude in such a highly visible medium. Every topic and change would be checked multiple times to ensure things are what we say they are. But then community manager comes and says something completely different.
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    I know raid will give best GS loot, wont stop people going to DZ to gear up a bit to make it easier,and when they see how frustrating it will be to get and realise they are in there more for entertainment for pvpers than to have a chance to get 515s there gonna rage,is it really worth the health of the game to risk that ?
    By putting 515s in the DZ and a raid upcoming there probably thinking they supplied content to both factions to retain player retention ,well see how it pans out but recent history shows players have very little patience for games that appear to be lessening their fun factor in any way , always a new game on the horizon. Personally if I was trying to retain players I wouldn't make the majority mad right now #gamerecipefordisaster
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    I hate to to bring this up. We should have known this was going to happen. When they switch the extra stash, to early access that was the writing on the wall!
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    Raid will likely take more than 2 hours. Since datamined an achievement for completing a segment under 1 hour.

    A regular Challenge mission doesn't drop much quality loot to begin with.
    So pair that with Raid's difficulty level, as well as the time it'd take, not to mention the amount of retries no doubt...

    Now take a look at Dark Zones.
    Let's talk about Normalized, while your stats are indirectly nerfed, enemies spongey-ness are also mostly gone.
    Loot drop chance are also relatively high, as well as its quality.
    Clearing landmarks takes about 5 minutes, quality loot drop will be about 3~6 items.

    Do I have to spell it out at this point?
    Sure, Raid might drop the highest GS, but with the required time and effort. It's not on the same ratio as how effortless and time consuming it is to farm in the Dark Zone. All you need is a bit of luck to not run across campers and gank squads. Or be a gank squad yourself even, 30 minutes camping at extraction site, and you might get the same amount of quality loot as you would running Raid 3 times in 6 hours.

    That ****'s not healthy. Stop trying to dismiss this obvious flaw.
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    Originally Posted by Elysia.C Go to original post
    ......and you might get the same amount of quality loot as you would running Raid 3 times in 6 hours.....
    I sincerely hope this is the case.

    However,

    I’m sure that higher gear score items will always be better than their lower score counterparts. I’d rather have one good piece that obviously drops from the Raid than ten mediocre pieces I farmed or stole in a quarter of the time in the DZ. It is after all why we are here, to chase the best loot.
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    Originally Posted by Mahc Go to original post
    I know raid will give best GS loot, wont stop people going to DZ to gear up a bit to make it easier,and when they see how frustrating it will be to get and realise they are in there more for entertainment for pvpers than to have a chance to get 515s there gonna rage,is it really worth the health of the game to risk that ?
    By putting 515s in the DZ and a raid upcoming there probably thinking they supplied content to both factions to retain player retention ,well see how it pans out but recent history shows players have very little patience for games that appear to be lessening their fun factor in any way , always a new game on the horizon. Personally if I was trying to retain players I wouldn't make the majority mad right now #gamerecipefordisaster
    1) Red storm wasn't allowed to speak about raid.
    2) If players are psychopaths, it's their problem.
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