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    Massive - if you try to force me into the DZ I will no longer play

    It's really that simple. I'm not saying that's what you are doing/have done, but if that's the way it pans out I will leave your game and find another, just as I did with Destiny 2.

    You cannot force PvP on PvE players. You will not convert them, you will lose them.

    I know I'm not alone. Please tread carefully on what thus far has been a good start.
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    Nobody is FORCING anyone to do anything, relax.

    https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.ph...1#post14165286
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    Originally Posted by Gulch69 Go to original post
    Nobody is FORCING anyone to do anything, relax.

    https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.ph...1#post14165286
    Actually yes they are. Its either pvp or forcing you into grouping with others. This game was advertised as 100% solo friendly pvp optional
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    Man they been pushing me into that mess since D1. And I'm as stubborn as those sweeds.
    This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object.
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    Originally Posted by Gulch69 Go to original post
    Nobody is FORCING anyone to do anything, relax.

    https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.ph...1#post14165286
    Yes they are. And you know they are.
    No griefing for you. 😂
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    Originally Posted by ArmyMedic75 Go to original post
    Actually yes they are. Its either pvp or forcing you into grouping with others. This game was advertised as 100% solo friendly pvp optional
    And it is and was just that: 100% solo friendly pvp optional. The power creep is for a small number of players and will not affect your experience in any meaningful way. Chillax bro.
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    Originally Posted by RichardOshea Go to original post
    And it is and was just that: 100% solo friendly pvp optional. The power creep is for a small number of players and will not affect your experience in any meaningful way. Chillax bro.
    Not if the only way you can get the gear is from raiding(which would require a group) or pvp
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    Originally Posted by Gulch69 Go to original post
    Nobody is FORCING anyone to do anything, relax.

    https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.ph...1#post14165286
    Technically yes they are. While I would not use the word "forced" since I can choose to not play once I get to the point where I can no longer grind for better gear with my chosen play style.

    But putting the best gear behind a select few play styles is in essence "forcing" people that do not want to PvP or Raid to do so. Thou like I said, they do have the choice to quit.

    But they are back peddling on what was promised/advertised.

    I think its cause they see how little the DZ is being used and think this will somehow create incentive....it might for a few people but for the most part people do not take part in a play style they do not like or cannot (due to challenged of having to organize 8 people or whatever) will continue to do so.

    This locking of 515 gs behind DZ sounds of desperation on their part. The DZ is their baby/experiment...always has been and seems like always will be.
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    Originally Posted by ArmyMedic75 Go to original post
    Actually yes they are. Its either pvp or forcing you into grouping with others. This game was advertised as 100% solo friendly pvp optional
    Care to show that advertisement? Because I believe the base game was meant to be your "100% solo friendly." They never said anything about raids being solo friendly, and assuming they would be is a mistake on your side if you did.
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    Originally Posted by xBloodySin Go to original post
    Care to show that advertisement? Because I believe the base game was meant to be your "100% solo friendly." They never said anything about raids being solo friendly, and assuming they would be is a mistake on your side if you did.
    I think you're misunderstanding. The problem is locking the best gear behind the DZ, or requiring players journey through the DZ to get to the best gear - for example if the only way to reach a required GS to unlock the raid is to gain gear only available in the DZ.

    I like raiding personally and don't mind if that's where the best gear is, but I understand those who don't. My beef is with PvP. I absolutely will not be forced to wade through that toxic mess. It is not the game I signed up for, and I will never do it for any length of time.
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