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  1. #1

    Hey Massive, we ask for a Armour and SKill Power buff, NOT NERFING

    When we ask for a buff for armour and skill power beside dozen of other broken or meaningless skill because they are too useless compare to DPS focus build, what do we have? Nerf all the DPS, the one that only matter at the moment.

    When i point out how desperately we need armour being more worthy because of all the hot shjt meta "1 Shot" build that are destroying PvP, not only didn't you point out directly and fix the main problem with that point, you go full blind nerfing nearly everything. Hell you even nerf the defensive talent (Patience) that supposed to work best for LMG-er in PvE

    Not to mention some of the nerf completely mess up people build. Now you can't even choose to play tanky in PvE anymore because if you try to stack blue stats to active defensive talent, you have to stack so much that your DPS will suffer significant to the point it becomes worthless for that

    Well done Massive. I was so active on your forum begging for armour buff/rework and this? All of my work creating and perfecting all my DPS build (because tank/skill build right now are terrible) for the last 2 weeks is about to get absolute trash in both PvP and PvE?

    Guess i will redownload D1 now
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    let them nerf, theyll quickly realize the mistake. let them make this horrible mistake and let them pay for it.

    clearly not learning after games like diablo3, division1 etc

    SAME HORRIBLE MISTAKES EVERY DAMN TIME...................................NERF

    BUILD IS FUN? NERF

    THIS TALENT IS UNDERUSED? LETS MAKE IT GOOD BY NERFING OTHER ONES

    OH THIS GUY IS DOING WELL WITH HIS BUILD IN PVP? BETTER NERF THAT **** BEFORE IT GOES META
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  3. #3
    Originally Posted by Dragonmaster083 Go to original post
    But but we are getting an armor buff, NPCs are getting nerfed.

    (tries to look at some silver lining, then cries in a corner)
    Doesn't look like the changes affect my sniper build to much at least. Everyone jump onto the sniper bandwagon.
    just what i thought. 1 Shot Snipe build is gonna be THE REAL META HOT SHJT if this patch gone live
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  4. #4
    What they don't seem to understand is that people aren't going for skill or tank builds because talents like Berserk are too strong. They aren't going for them because of how poorly executed they are. And just take a second to think about this. Why would anyone think that nerfing a build we've worked hard to obtain is going to motivate them to work hard at obtaining another build, when it's proven that massive is just going to do the same thing in patch in the near future. It does the complete opposite, it doesn't over incentive and renders the time we just spent completely pointless.
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    Originally Posted by Dragonmaster083 Go to original post
    1 shot sniper is dying for pvp as weapon damage is far lower normalized then it currently is.
    i don't think so. Just test my ball with a few Conflict match few hours ago. Atleast at my region server people still pretty much play 1 shot sniper, all 4 match i played both side have atleast 1 dude with this build. On the other day i met an @sshole in an unoccupied DZ and he run a 1 shot LMG build Classc M60 that have over 19k damage normalized, he killed a full squad of 4 in less than 5 second. The whole normalization is also pretty garbage and fcked up

    So no, i don't think 1 shot snipe is dying. All of these buff doesn't seem to affect sniper build so we gonna have to adapt the newest shjt show
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    Originally Posted by KissYourHomie Go to original post
    When we ask for a buff for armour and skill power beside dozen of other broken or meaningless skill because they are too useless compare to DPS focus build, what do we have? Nerf all the DPS, the one that only matter at the moment.

    When i point out how desperately we need armour being more worthy because of all the hot shjt meta "1 Shot" build that are destroying PvP, not only didn't you point out directly and fix the main problem with that point, you go full blind nerfing nearly everything. Hell you even nerf the defensive talent (Patience) that supposed to work best for LMG-er in PvE

    Not to mention some of the nerf completely mess up people build. Now you can't even choose to play tanky in PvE anymore because if you try to stack blue stats to active defensive talent, you have to stack so much that your DPS will suffer significant to the point it becomes worthless for that

    Well done Massive. I was so active on your forum begging for armour buff/rework and this? All of my work creating and perfecting all my DPS build (because tank/skill build right now are terrible) for the last 2 weeks is about to get absolute trash in both PvP and PvE?

    Guess i will redownload D1 now
    I agree with you 100% about patience(although I run it as an ar user)I want to play the way I want to play NOT the way Massive WANTS me to play. My build is set up to my liking and now if this change goes into effect then I am going to have to retool my ENTIRE play style
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  7. #7
    Originally Posted by ksubs80 Go to original post
    What they don't seem to understand is that people aren't going for skill or tank builds because talents like Berserk are too strong. They aren't going for them because of how poorly executed they are. And just take a second to think about this. Why would anyone think that nerfing a build we've worked hard to obtain is going to motivate them to work hard at obtaining another build, when it's proven that massive is just going to do the same thing in patch in the near future. It does the complete opposite, it doesn't over incentive and renders the time we just spent completely pointless.
    Not to mention the horrible synergy.

    I wanted to build a PvE CC build around wicked and ignited to maintain some form of DPS that I sacrifice for using the turret and hem launcher mods.

    Sounds nice right?

    Well....to be able to fully utilize the fire CC I need to go for the survivalist build because that is the only way to get fire grenades.

    Which pushes me to use AR's and Shotguns because otherwise the damage bonus is wasted. Shotguns for players being wet noodle shooters and you might as well use party poppers...distinctly different from the bullet walls of death the NPCs dish out...an AR it is.

    Anyway...to even get enough SP to use the turret and chemlauncher mods...and still have some survivability within the 400 gear pieces I have collected so far....I don't have enough SP unless I use Petrov....because that is the only gear set that gives additional turret skill power.

    Which itself is made for an LMG...

    Ok...welll....it might work. But it sucks.

    So what about an explosive build utilizing the underwhelming Merciless rifle? I don't need much SP for that...

    Welll.....ideally you need the demolitions specialization to fully use the benefits of investing in explosives. But the explosive rifle that would benefit from exactly this build demands the sharpshooter talent...to get some DPS boost...making the overal choice to invest in explosives rather null and void.

    Especially given the fact that the omniscient NPCs Husain Bolt it out of every red circle with a level of gymnastic display that would make olympic athletes scratch their heads in disbelieve.

    Nothing really synergizes and it hurts build diversity more than any talent will.
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  8. #8
    Yup, I noticed that too.
    This goes to the heart of my issues with ubi. They ask and get the feedback from the community. The mods included. They send feedback too. Ubi reacts with the typical cookie cutter response. But moves forward with changes no one asked for and no matter what the consequences. Sad because it started really good and just like in D1 it's all downhill from there.
    Enjoy the next pop drop wave ubi. You've worked really hard on it.
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  9. #9
    "Especially given the fact that the omniscient NPCs Husain Bolt it out of every red circle with a level of gymnastic display that would make olympic athletes scratch their heads in disbelieve."

    I am not sure if you mean the grenade launcher from Demolitionist or grenades. I have not seen them get out of the launcher red circle, it drops too fast. If you mean grenades, I have found if I lob a grenade and immediately start shooting, they all look around to see who's shooting, ignoring the grenade at their feet, and the grenade gets them all.
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  10. #10
    This dev team is like Targaryens! NERF THEM ALL HE SAID NERF THEM ALL!!!!
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