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[Oddb0d]

Maybe you need more armor then.


Work on your aim. I drop a red drone on Heroic in under a single clip from a normal assault rifle and I'm not running pure DPS.

You guys are either suffering some horrible bug, have a really bad aim, or are exaggerating to the point of lying. I don't single-shot die to anything in Heroic and we just took down the boss in Space Adminstration HQ in Heroic in like, 5 seconds. Just spam skills, specialization ammos, a few nades and some bullets at him.

Too bad I didn't take video of that, but e.g. here's a guy soloing a mission on Heroic without a fully optimized set-up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WznK5ZXaPS8 Took 4 minutes to clear the final fight of the mission. Is 4 minutes too much time for the final fight of a mission on the hardest available difficulty?

Here's a guy who's optimized and theorycrafted the **** out of his build: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RwdINXO_GM He's killing elites in a single clip from his 100 bullet LMG.

Here's a group of guys speedrunning DCD on Heroic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNAfVXiUgL8 Under 18 minutes. Blade, the end boss, survived 20 seconds when they started damaging him at 16:00.

WTF has me having more armour got to do with taking out a drone? Nothing.

Every single shot registers. You can tell that as you get the hit markers. You cant really f**k up with the Glory Daze as stability is spot on. My aim is not sh!t like you are trying to point out. And what is the point of me lying...nothing, there is no need at all to lie.

[tzaeru]

WTF has me having more armour got to do with taking out a drone? Nothing.

You said "When a red bombardier drone can take more hits than you then there really is a problem.". You could fix that with more armor.

Every single shot registers. You can tell that as you get the hit markers. You cant really f**k up with the Glory Daze as stability is spot on. My aim is not sh!t like you are trying to point out.

Hmm, well, Glory Daze is a little bit lackluster I find. Are you shooting at the enemy at an optimal range? With that -35% optimal range, Glory Daze has basically the same effective range as a SMG. So shooting a drone that is at any distance might not be optimal.

And what is the point of me lying...nothing, there is no need at all to lie.

Well, sorry, shouldn't have blamed you so directly, but people exaggerate very easily. My anecdotal experiences are so vastly different from e.g. yours that I'm simply trying to understand what the actual problem is. Nothing in this game takes even nearly as many hits as the Cyberdemon in Doom 1. Once a boss is isolated and his friends are killed, I am pretty sure it has never taken more than a minute to kill a boss in this game - usually much shorter than that, too. Lots of FPS games and MMOs feature tougher boss fights with spongier bosses than this game. And okay, yeah, Heroic is hard on solo, I agree, but shouldn't it? There's people speed-running solo Heroic in under 20 minutes. It's doable. But does everyone need to be able to do it? I'd say no. Not everyone needs to be able to.

[Oddb0d]

You said "When a red bombardier drone can take more hits than you then there really is a problem.". You could fix that with more armor.



Hmm, well, Glory Daze is a little bit lackluster I find. Are you shooting at the enemy at an optimal range? With that -35% optimal range, Glory Daze has basically the same effective range as a SMG. So shooting a drone that is at any distance might not be optimal.



Well, sorry, shouldn't have blamed you so directly, but people exaggerate very easily. My anecdotal experiences are so vastly different from e.g. yours that I'm simply trying to understand what the actual problem is. Nothing in this game takes even nearly as many hits as the Cyberdemon in Doom 1. Once a boss is isolated and his friends are killed, I am pretty sure it has never taken more than a minute to kill a boss in this game - usually much shorter than that, too. Lots of FPS games and MMOs feature tougher boss fights with spongier bosses than this game. And okay, yeah, Heroic is hard on solo, I agree, but shouldn't it? There's people speed-running solo Heroic in under 20 minutes. It's doable. But does everyone need to be able to do it? I'd say no. Not everyone needs to be able to.

The point with the drone is they shouldn't take so many bullets to take them out, its that simple, they don't hit me, I just get out of the way.

As for the Glory Daze I wait until they are close enough in so that I do get the optimal range, even when they are nearly on top of me they don't take much damage. I have to stress here that I am playing on hard and anything above hard is harder to kill/destroy (as it should be to which I have no argument about), but still, they're a fkin drone, they shouldn't take so many hits to take out, after all, they can take out my drone so very easily enough. I cant count how many times I have deployed my drone and its been taken out in a matter of moments.

As for more armour (which I stated previously was at 860k+), I am trying to fine tune one build at a time so I can create my loadouts, I'm not going to or rather don't want to start faffing about trying to create multiple loadouts at the same time. Even before the WoNY every time I created a loadout it was fine, but it wouldn't save multiple loadouts correctly. I would make a build, save it and it would be fine. When I started a new one, I would save that loadout, choose the one first made and have different items equipped! The last time I tried it, it equipped an M4 as my primary and different bits of gear that I wouldn't use. I cant explain it, It's obvious there that I'm the one that fked up I know, but I never used the M4 until the Pyromaniac came into play, I tried it yes, but I didn't save it as a piece of a loadout as I preferred and ran with the P416.

As for the Cyberdemon, I pulled hair, teeth and fingernails out fighting that fecker.

[UswaldHUN]

I agree with the original post.
It doesn't matter if I'm in a group of 4 or alone in the open world or in a mission, a mob with a shotgun takes me down in max 2 shots. I have a lvl40 agent with 660k armor with Striker build. I tried different builds with more armor, but I didn't feel the difference, so I choose more DMG instead of armor. And yes, I can do DMG, I can aim a bit also, IF I get the chance.
This game used to be fun. Now it mostly makes me frustrated.

[Cyanide-Cure]

I agree with the original post.
It doesn't matter if I'm in a group of 4 or alone in the open world or in a mission, a mob with a shotgun takes me down in max 2 shots. I have a lvl40 agent with 660k armor with Striker build. I tried different builds with more armor, but I didn't feel the difference, so I choose more DMG instead of armor. And yes, I can do DMG, I can aim a bit also, IF I get the chance.
This game used to be fun. Now it mostly makes me frustrated.

I've got 1.2 mil armor and even then it becomes a pain with many mobs. I like the challenge but damn, not everything needs to take forever to do, not everything needs to feel like you need to be a war time tactician to pull it off. I'm having fun but the sustainability of that fun with decline soon over time. Many others love the challenge and thats good, let them play it on like challenging or legendary modes while the devs figure it all out.