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  1. #11
    I see a bunch of idiots in this thread. If you really want to see which heroes need tweaking, see the competitive For Honor player's input.I'm not even competitive and even I see the stupidity in this thread. The heroes the competitive players call S tier should be nerfed, and those below B tier should be improved upon. Also lets not confuse the terms "reworks" and "nerfs" because it sounds like you're screaming for nerfs.

    As it stands Hitokiri in the competitive world is very high due to hyperarmor at 100ms. While people like to say just dodge, you can't do it forever. She has variable heavy timings that can be used to throw off your timings on top of high tracking. She also has nasty kick mixups to go with it to catch dodge-happy players. Failed parries result in hyperarmor trades. A stupidly reckless Hitokiri is easy to beat, but one that knows what they're doing is a completely different story unless you play Black Prior, Conq, or Warden. Heroes with powerful neutral bashes counter hyperarmor abusers.

    Light spam can be a problem on console depending on other people's connection. I find in duels its not as bad as it is in 4v4 modes but it ultimately depends on the person. I find I can block most Orochi lights as long as they're not sitting at 60+ latency.

    Shaman is one of those heroes who stomps noobs because noobs are in that stage of just reacting to everything. Shaman works against that because she forces you to read your opponent and what kinds of moves they like to do. It's not as simple as "see an indicator, block or or dodge it". She has numerous soft feints, and she is still punishable. I hated fighting her when I first got the game, but now I don't mind it and actually enjoy it. She gets better in time. Just keep at it.

    Valk is another hero you have to predict. She has multiple mixups, you can't just react to everything she does. Certainly not on console like some of us. Just like Shaman but less tricky.

    Lawbringer not even. His offense is generally not all that great but in the right hands he can be nasty because he has the highest parry punishes in the game and the largest health pool. And his block-shove can shut down a good number of mixups. The higher tier players put him at A tier because they actually know how to parry and don't cry about Valk shield bash LMFAO
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  2. #12
    I left this game because of Orochi lights. Theis speed the same for PC and ps4. But you have 30fps on ps4. So? zero chance. If you take look at any dominion or bridge match on ps4 with Orochi, he always has much more frags than any character just because of light spam.
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  3. #13
    Orochi?, he is trash, give me more light parries, in 4v4 just external block him, rework to improve him.

    Valk?, she deals little dmg, also is easy to dodge her shield charge since she gives it away with her heavy animation, give her more offensive tools.

    Warden?, i give it to you that his charged sb deals too much dmg, nerfing his top heavy to 35-38 dmg or only making his top heavy guaranteed from wallsplats would be fine

    Shaman?, she is well balanced, she gets punished hard on good reads but is also rewarded properly for your mistakes.

    Actual heroes that need a rework because of their bad desing: conq, lb, cent, HL, ara, shino, jorm.
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  4. #14
    Only rework I want is an Aramusha rework, he is the only bybrid in the game without some type of side step attack, bash, or opener other than parrying. I would be OK with just letting you feint any of your heavies instead of just the first heavy finisher.
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  5. #15
    Conqueror? He needs to be more based on what he is titled, which is a Tank. Shaman? Now thats a hero that needs work. Every game I go into, I see shaman s having over 10 to 15 kills, top of the scoreboard and small deaths. Is she punishable? Yes, but her moveset is toxic and insanely difficult to manage on console, pc? Not sure but I have not ever won a shaman fight and im not a noob I am a 19 rep conq main and I have yet to see anyone but a shaman, beat a shaman consistently. She is just simply put too fast and insanely high damage.
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  6. #16
    Exept warden
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  7. #17
    I don't know bashing is a thing in this game, it can interrupt any chain attack. It's a skill-less opener. People who abuse shield bashing are what wrong with this game.
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  8. #18
    dont forget the Highlander
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  9. #19
    I think Valkyrie is fine, though i do question if she actually needs a deflect with her kit.



    Reflex guard being converted to standard guard would help a lot of hero's out tbh.
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  10. #20
    Shaman and jormugander can easily be killed by heroes like warmonger how ? Simple light and shove or guarbreak repeat until they die
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