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[Zombie.Face]

her utility kit into consideration? u for real here? her damage is trash and her moves are all soooo easy to avoid. one of the dev posts i read said that the community thought her damage was in a good place.. since nobody plays her i can understand why the community doesn't really care about Valk or her damage. Her damage is not even close to "a good spot"

[Sweaty_Sock]

her utility kit into consideration? u for real here? her damage is trash and her moves are all soooo easy to avoid. one of the dev posts i read said that the community thought her damage was in a good place.. since nobody plays her i can understand why the community doesn't really care about Valk or her damage. Her damage is not even close to "a good spot"

This is why I am against arbitrarily buffs. If you land a combo you are getting 48+ damage (one 13 light and a sweep). That is good. One light and GB/hvy is still 37 damage? A few trades at that damage level and its over.

There are some DAMN good valks that are doing well with her. Characters having a low pick rate doesn't mean they are utterly terrible, it means there are some people who love to play it and some who do not. I loved to play shugoki, put 28 reps through him. Now I can't stand him but his 'pickrate' has gone up as people with no interest have jumped on the bandwagon

Valk isnt currently some cripple, its a character in need of a refresher but not an overhaul. If you carrry on with complaints like the one I quoted you'll lose half the kit and get some 50 damage one trick combo, people who never liked the character will start to play it on mass and you'll have lost the very thing you are arguing for.

[Siegfried-Z]

This is why I am against arbitrarily buffs. If you land a combo you are getting 48+ damage (one 13 light and a sweep). That is good. One light and GB/hvy is still 37 damage? A few trades at that damage level and its over.

There are some DAMN good valks that are doing well with her. Characters having a low pick rate doesn't mean they are utterly terrible, it means there are some people who love to play it and some who do not. I loved to play shugoki, put 28 reps through him. Now I can't stand him but his 'pickrate' has gone up as people with no interest have jumped on the bandwagon

Valk isnt currently some cripple, its a character in need of a refresher but not an overhaul. If you carrry on with complaints like the one I quoted you'll lose half the kit and get some 50 damage one trick combo, people who never liked the character will start to play it on mass and you'll have lost the very thing you are arguing for.

Ridicoulous argue as usual.
U should stop this personnal vendetta against Valk. Youre making yourself funny still using argue i literally dismantle many Times on this thread at the point you even stop answering.

[Sweaty_Sock]

Ridicoulous argue as usual.
U should stop this personnal vendetta against Valk. Youre making yourself funny still using argue i literally dismantle many Times on this thread at the point you even stop answering.

You said you have a 75% fail rate in combos, listed a bunch of counter moves and announced 'I win'

What vendetta? did you not read what I said. I want to save valk from the steamrolling rework hammer that your constant complaints will bring on her

You literally want her entire kit buffed when something as simple as BP's bash recovery has such a disruptive effect on the game. We what, give her back allguard knockdown, remove recovery from sweep (enemies only now as well) & buff heavies to 35? While at it lets bring back the infinite sweep combo but buff it so that it has hyperarmour and unblockables

EDIT: you talk about BIAS but don't seem to see how its skewing your own perspective

[MessirePhilippe]

I understand all the argument but i think developers now is extremely careful with the buff of character, i like what they did for the warlord, even if we need a little things in more(look thread on warlord(No not the thread of Melikethegame xD) and is why i think we need to ask little at little buff ,just heavy buffed will be a plus for player who know play it (i play warlord,the damage buff make me happy even if is not too much) so that can make him a little better for people who try it and make people who main happy in waiting of other stuff, plus that less work for dev to do 1 buff ,make a full overhaul with the balance is more hard

[Siegfried-Z]

You said you have a 75% fail rate in combos, listed a bunch of counter moves and announced 'I win'

What vendetta? did you not read what I said. I want to save valk from the steamrolling rework hammer that your constant complaints will bring on her

You literally want her entire kit buffed when something as simple as BP's bash recovery has such a disruptive effect on the game. We what, give her back allguard knockdown, remove recovery from sweep (enemies only now as well) & buff heavies to 35? While at it lets bring back the infinite sweep combo but buff it so that it has hyperarmour and unblockables

EDIT: you talk about BIAS but don't seem to see how its skewing your own perspective

Again, i am not asking for her to become a cheesy heroe. I said before i dont want her to become another s tier.

But this doesnt mean we should let her at her current state which is obviously not even B tier.

You litterally said things i never ask for her such as all heavies to 35, knock down and no recovery on her sweep.
I never ever ask for such ridiculous things.

I will word it again for you :
-heavy dmg buff is a must do as she has the lowest punish in the game on light parry and GB when it comes to heavy. I've suggested these numbers : 28, 32, 34. (Which is still lower than most heroes).

-a shield tackle buff. But never ask for the knock down to come back. But she need to get back the ability to go out of it with dash at least. And considering the high risk of the moove and his huge recovery for 13dmg, it should get back the full block on release.

-her zone need to be buff. Why ? Because atm tell me for what else it is usefull than cleaning minions ?

-her sweep mix up should be better OR have slight less recovery (allowing Dodge attack but no GB for example).

-i thought it would be very Nice to get back the headbutt as a parry option follow up. It would not change anything to her strengh, it would just be a Nice plus to the original identity of the heroe for the ones who use to play her before the rework.

So if we sum it up, among my 5 request, 2 are just to make possible to use again some dead mooves in her kit (shield tackle and zone).

1 is just for her identity (headbutt).
1 would just make efficient as it should be a very weak mix up which is supposed to be her main weapon (sweep).
1 would only allow her to not be the weakiest heroe in terms of dmg (heavies slight buff).

Tell me where is the bad rework hammer in that ? It is only about to made some dead mooves available again and to solve some unfair things going for her.

Please keep in mind that Valk was among the top 3 worst heroes in the game for a very very long time before her rework and is now only average in duel and still weak in 4v4.

You look afraid that she could become a real good heroe one day. Sorry but this is clearly the direction the team has choose to go for a while ago. Sooner or later every heroes are going to be arround A tier level or high B tier at least.

You dont want the dead pieces of Valk kit to be buff, want a Warden nerf etc .. these are on the opposite of what the team want to do.

These things wouldnt make Valk s tier in anyway. Just a Real decent heroe.

So, stop saying her sweep combo have high dmg while it almost never land, this is irrelevant of her state as a heroe. As is your argue to say some Valk are good, of course, some PK, Glad, Musha or Cent too are damn good, it doesnt make these heroes strong.

[xIBlacKmaNIx]

How many reps have you put into Valk may i ask?

[Sweaty_Sock]

Based on the rep 70 valk rep 255+ overall I just dueled for about 12 rounds straight 'lol only the low skilled valks maybe'

Asked them about damage buff

[Dry.Fish]

There is a lot of people not happy with the Valk rework. They either grown to love love it or not being vocal about it.

[Knight_Raime]

Personally what i'd like:

~Shield tackle can be dodged out of again.
~Shield tackle during running blocks forward direction.
~Shield tackle can knock someone down if they're OOS.
~Heavy finishers get undodgable property.
~All of her attacks are 33ms faster except her 400ms top light mid combo.
~Sweep's recovery reduced slightly and given a variable input window.
~Shield bash input window getting a slightly bigger input window.
~Dodge attacks can be done 100ms into her dodge.
~Can input sweep with back GB mid combo.
~Guaranteed sweep attack damage nerfed.
~damage of heavies slightly increased.