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Isn't anyone else getting one shotted by the NPC's?
I've been playing a while, and I have been struggling with this a bit... BUT, I wasn't able to verify until today. One, single gold mob with a sub gun, walks into my teamates, as if theyw ere not firing everything they had at him. All three teamates near 500 power. LMG's, assault rifles etc.. ALL firing at him, he walks in, with the gun held sideways like an idiot, and slowly, methodically. shoots them... ONE SHOT, ONE KILL... They are swearing as I reload my M60. Check my health, full, full armor too, I am good! Take a deep breath, right klik to aim around the concrete column, FIRE!!!!!!
Nope, DEAD before my gun goes off....
I dont have a great set yet, but I am getting close to 500 and struggling to get the set items I want... except, I KEEP getting one shotted.. and now that I HAVE verified it, with 4 witnesses... I am not going to play anymore.. ONE SHOT death means giving this game my ONE SHOT is done.. I am going to ask for my money back.. until its fixed, then I will try again...
NO npc can one shot me.. unless you make it possible for me to one shot him? Grenades and molotov's thrown from across the map.. over a hundred yards away, and they hit you in the forehead if you don't dodge away... NPC arms that ANY Pro NFL quarterback would give MILLIONS to have!
How can you dump a full belt of M60 ammo into an NPC and have him walking toward you with a shotty as if nothing is happening? THEN one shot you? Sorry guys, but I want my money back until you decide how to make this game fun again. Real life has enough stuff in it that makes me angry, I play to have fun, and this, IS NOT fun.
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Ok, the game is hard, if you mess up once and get caught in fire your not holding the give up button, you're folded backwards like a broken lawnchair! It is very unforgiving when you gwt caught, which im assuming happened. No big deal though, its a game. If they change anything thatll void my build that i have at least 25 hours into making, so they can't change it.
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Going to come out on the OP's side here. Hyena's seem to be OP compared to other factions; they seem to do way more damage for some reason, despite the fact Black Tusk are supposed to be better equipped.
As for the NPC the OP is on about he appears to be doing more damage than other NPC's. Don't get me started on the baton swinging NPC's, because they are doing damage that seems to be more in line with a katana wielded by a master samurai. Something with Hyenas seems to be off.
Every so often you'll come accross one of the hyenas and they will literally wipe out your armour in a split second, along with most of your health. No other NPC's seems to have the same almighty variation in damage.
My guess is that hyenas are critical based for the most part, but never got the same nerf we did. Consequently their stats are a little unbalanced, but that's just a quess given the variable damage I've come accross. I could be completely wrong, and it could just be lag or something else, such as perception.
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If it was 4 v 1 NPC, then that doesn't seem right even if your builds aren't that good. What were you doing, and what difficulty were you on, and did you managed to make a note of the kill stats when you dies? At the least there seems to be some lag, since the computer managed to kill you before your gun even fired.Originally Posted by KnitePrince Go to original post
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Yes it has happened more than once and in your situation; teammates I were one shot.
I don’t mind the venting at all. With that said I think it would be good to list the build stats when this happens. Someone mentioned this in another thread which I think would be helpful for everyone.
I will do the same when it happens again. Also any footage would probably help likewise
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Yeah good call, also details on circumstance like world tier, difficulty and instance etc. If it is a problem with the NPC's or game it will become evident, if it is just build that should also show up. At least we may be able to adjust.Originally Posted by GetMused Go to original post
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Have had this happen a few times, always with 4 players. Elite takes 4-5 mags of LMG (that's 400-500 rounds) to just take off the armor bar. And he hits like a truck. I think it's some kind of balancing bug with 4 players. And it's not constant, only some times (e.g. other times scaling is just fine).
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KnitePrince, just a quick question and i'm not fishing (got my own problems with TD2)
Is it not a good thing to have a game that challenges you to keep on playing instead of beating it and getting bored.
Also would the factor of the challenge being really hard be worse than if you were not able to run the game or have stable gameplay.
I would think that just playing the game is a really great achievement and if things are too extreme like the NPC's and you would like nerf's or something, you may find that it does happen over time and makes the game less enjoyable.
It's a fine line of getting the AI to the spot where it keeps the majority of players happy but still challenged and satisfied.
There was mention in the last SOTG about how the games algorithm in the code has been seeing agents at certain random times as much more powerful than they are and responding accordingly.
Check it out you will be interested, from memory it was after the half way mark in the vid.
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Only by the robot things, purple or yellow, warlords are they? Possibly boss snipers? haven't tried standing in the open though to test it.
The outlaw hammer guy cant one hit kill me now, very close, 1 tiny bit of health yet but no more down straight the way. Think I can get elbowed killed though by anyone which is daft.
