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    RaulO4's Avatar Senior Member
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    well thats what making a game is about

    you need to put these littler details in it

    it may seem its for nothing but it does go a long way.


    they can also make the AI still breath when KO

    a simple animation....
    i really hope that this game does good

    to bad i cant play it anymore
    I'll be here until Sc6 and hope it comes out on ps3
    maybe they will have the stealth we all know and love and have the brutal(if that is the way you play) in it....
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    I have a theory:

    I think the way it works is that every melee attack is brutal but non-lethal except for the neck break, which happens under two circumstances.

    1- When you draw a weapon while hanging and hold it while you perform death from above. (Obviously it can only be a pistol since only one hand is free)

    2- When you grab an NPC and push B with weapon in hand. (Again, it can only be a pistol)
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    Originally posted by RaulO4:
    to bad i cant play it anymore
    What happened?
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    Originally posted by Jazz_117:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mr.E.Bear:
    Redding told us this ages ago.

    Also, pure stealth has no KOs
    Redding did say something on the lines yes, but it was a little vague, many around here still thought control was out of the players hands.

    And stealth can involve KO's, just as long as the unconscious person hasn't seen you. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Yes, Redding told us about the co-op situation but I asked Quid to confirm that it was the same for single player and he said he'd get on the case. So here we have that answered!

    I would still like to have the option to instantly choose lethal or LTL, as there will be moments I'm sure when you'll have your gun out and are forced to react with H2H and this will cause unnecessary kills, but it's most definitely good news!

    All we need now is a means of knocking them (apart from smashing their head against a wall) after we've grabbed them and the game would be on the right track.
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    Originally posted by oO_ShadowFox_Oo:
    Yes, Redding told us about the co-op situation but I asked Quid to confirm that it was the same for single player and he said he'd get on the case. So here we have that answered!

    I would still like to have the option to instantly choose lethal or LTL, as there will be moments I'm sure when you'll have your gun out and are forced to react with H2H and this will cause unnecessary kills, but it's most definitely good news!

    All we need now is a means of knocking them (apart from smashing their head against a wall) after we've grabbed them and the game would be on the right track.
    I'm just kind of confused though you know? the only thing i've seen with the pistol is the larynx crush. When you use them as a shield you should be given the option ot ko or execute.

    Do you think the knocking the head against the wall is lethal? I don't think it will be...
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    Originally posted by sumoaltus:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by oO_ShadowFox_Oo:
    Yes, Redding told us about the co-op situation but I asked Quid to confirm that it was the same for single player and he said he'd get on the case. So here we have that answered!

    I would still like to have the option to instantly choose lethal or LTL, as there will be moments I'm sure when you'll have your gun out and are forced to react with H2H and this will cause unnecessary kills, but it's most definitely good news!

    All we need now is a means of knocking them (apart from smashing their head against a wall) after we've grabbed them and the game would be on the right track.
    I'm just kind of confused though you know? the only thing i've seen with the pistol is the larynx crush. When you use them as a shield you should be given the option ot ko or execute.

    Do you think the knocking the head against the wall is lethal? I don't think it will be... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Considering the blood splatter oon the wall, I'd say that's probably lethal. I think you just need to put your pistol away before dispatching them to do it LTL.
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    Originally posted by Jazz_117:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RaulO4:
    to bad i cant play it anymore
    What happened? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


    i made a hard choice

    I'm selling my 360 to get a ps3

    but the good side that the one I'm selling my 360 too does not want my HDD

    so i may get a 360 again
    because its now only 150$ for me
    but it wont happen for a long time.

    if only it will come out on ps3
    well i guess i can try sc6 lol
    but the day comes that i get another 360 Scc will be the one i come home with.

    it was hard but the 360 games was not my liking anymore
    just one scc
    ps3 had more right now
    mgs4,GoW3,MAG....uncharted 2(yes its easy but its like the next Indiana Jones)
    and free online
    so my plan right now is to save the money that i would have been paying for live for the 360...

    halo has lost its value to me(make no mistake halo3 kick ***)

    fable 2 didnt do it for as the fist one(reason because it had no armor just cloths)

    I'm no Fan of consoles just the games and right now ps3 has the games i want to play.

    ....and i have a cod of conviction with me XD
    so i guess i keep it just in case.

    also the ps3 has blue ray and my father/mother love watching movies

    so at the moment the ps3 fits the need for the household


    thats why i always say
    don't get a console for what people say about it
    get a console that fits and works for you.
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    Originally posted by Stealthgamer001:
    Considering the blood splatter oon the wall, I'd say that's probably lethal. I think you just need to put your pistol away before dispatching them to do it LTL.
    Massive blunt force trauma? haha

    From seeing all of the conflicting videos of the intro with the bathroom beat up scene, does he actually choke and kill that guy, or does he just let him be?
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    Originally posted by sumoaltus:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by oO_ShadowFox_Oo:
    Yes, Redding told us about the co-op situation but I asked Quid to confirm that it was the same for single player and he said he'd get on the case. So here we have that answered!

    I would still like to have the option to instantly choose lethal or LTL, as there will be moments I'm sure when you'll have your gun out and are forced to react with H2H and this will cause unnecessary kills, but it's most definitely good news!

    All we need now is a means of knocking them (apart from smashing their head against a wall) after we've grabbed them and the game would be on the right track.
    I'm just kind of confused though you know? the only thing i've seen with the pistol is the larynx crush. When you use them as a shield you should be given the option ot ko or execute.

    Do you think the knocking the head against the wall is lethal? I don't think it will be... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    You haven't seen any of the pistol takedowns that Sam does where he shoots them in the heart/shoots their hands/shoots them in the back of the head/shoots them in the head when they're on the ground?

    And yes, Sam blasting someone's head straight into a wall or off a concrete edge is most definitely lethal.

    You've been watching too many Hollywood movies.
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    this will be an IMO


    i think and believe they are saying this to clam down some fans

    reason because i see no animation
    indicating other why's

    1.there a takedown with a 2 handed weapon
    where he slams hes gun on the guys neck
    with the force he using he will break the air tube.

    the air tube is easily broken...that's a kill

    2.with a 2 handed weapon again he chokes another guy hard and by the way it looks like he killed him.

    once again little things make a big difference

    once again this is just IMO writing
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